I'd like to leave, but we need to be ready to leave. There's isn't a simple yes no answer for me. That's the farce of a referendum. That and it being nowt but a glorified survey
All the big players are part of trading blocs, so if we left the EU we would have to try and align ourselves in another one, and perhaps would become even more reliant of the USA.
Thats one good point. As the UK has no industry how would things work? Mind the idea of being bossed by the EU is cringing. But an independant UK being ran by Cameron or god forbid Corbyn is worse.
It's easy to blame the EU for failings, when stronger measures should have been in place when we first joined. We do need to get our house in order, but foreign aid would be my first changes. Giving money to the likes of India who have a space programme is ludicrous. I'm in the on the fence camp at the minute
Are the Scandinavian countries in the EU? Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc. funnily enough I think they are doing very well without the EU. It's a difficult one but were deffo not on a level playing field regarding what we put into it and what we get back from it. How much does it actually cost to maintain all these hangers on in The Hague, Strasbourg etc. is it worth it or could the dealings be made from all our own shores without paying these w*nkers, cos that's what they are, tremendous amounts of money for basically sweet f*ck all in return.
I am undecided. Definitely need to do more reading into it before committing myself. I will add that my outlook on Europe has been somewhat prejudiced since moving to Oxford. The place is jam packed with them! I'd only ever met one Polish guy (he is a very good friend nowadays) before moving there and he is about as Polish as Master Simpson is a Newcastle fan! As a side note, I think the Schengen agreement must be stopped.
I'll be a reluctant Yes voter. There's a lot wrong with the EU but we can't stop them from federalising even more if we're not in the club. As Jim Hacker said in Yes Prime Minister, we only joined it to stop it from ever working properly! I think there's a ring of truth in that somewhere.
I was reading an article the other day which claimed that the government are keeping secret the real number of EU migrants. The originators of the article claimed that a freedom of information request was denied because it could influence Camerons renegotiations. They believe that the real reason we are being kept in the dark is that if we knew the real figures we would be out of the EU via the referendum with a big majority. Personally if we did come out I think industrial relations would be set back 50 years but we really need to be doing something about immigration both EU and Non EU
It's the most corrupt organization since the Soviet Union. They don't even try to hide it. Infact, they flaunt it & shove it in your face. The Frogs & the Krauts have most of the power. A massive out for me.
I am 100% for leaving the EU. The only arguments the in camp have are scare stories saying things like we will lose 3 million jobs and the like. That is complete rubbish. We heard the same crap when we were told that not joining the Euro would cost us and that Nissan would leave us. We buy 6 times more from the EU than we sell to them. Are they going to stop selling to us. Of course not. They say the EU zone is our biggest export market. It isn't. They count our exports to the rest of the world which go via Rotterdam (for example) as exports to the EU. The EU market is sinking fast. We would get our fishing industry back. We could get out of the crazy CAP. Somewhere around 400 votes that the UK voted against in the EU were passed, we have no influence on EU policy. We would not have to pay £55,000,000 a day to this corrupt bloc. We would get our own place back on the WTO instead of being 1 of 28 represented by the EU. We could control immigration freeing up houses for our own people. Net incoming of 360,000 a year (figures the government admits to although it is much higher and they are keeping the real figures secret, see above) We could trade with places that are currently finding it very difficult to get in the EU trading, like fair trade from Africa. We would be 11% better off in our pockets from day one of leaving. Can't remember the article but it was an independent assessment. Cameron says he got a reduction in payments to the EU but we pay more than ever. A yes vote means we will end up in the Euro. 100%. There are so many more good reasons to leave but I can't be bothered to list them but the stay in lot only have scare stories. The only positive is that once you have changed your money to Euros you don't need to change between EU countries. This will still be the same when we leave. Anyone undecided should look up the various pros and cons and they will find the case for leaving is a no brainer. Don't listen to the bbc (who get large grants from the EU) or other main stream media as most are biased and are pro EU. Look behind the bias and find out the truth. Vote leave!
This is something I would stress in general. Our state media only have the interests of the very, very few in mind.
I hope the EU falls to bits around Angela Merkel's hairy fanny. Can you imagine rutting that? FFS, it would be worse than watching Crumbles sister having a swim. Spiders legs everywhere, poking out all over the place.
The biggest problems with the EU are the lack of transparency and democracy. The bureaucrats that repeatedly fail to stick to budgets and who have not had accounts signed off for over a decade are unaccountable and content to simply jack up our taxes to feather their nests. The "in camp" continually compare us to Norway and Switzerland but these are two tiny economies whereas we are the 6th biggest in the world. We import more from the EU than we export to them so they are hardly likely to start a trade war and furthermore our exports to the rest of the world are growing faster than those to the EU. The Eurozone block will continue to work toward further integration and full federalism to our disadvantage. If we leave I wouldn't be surprised if Denmark were next and a number of other members would consider their options pretty damn quikly. In short I don't think we have anything to fear from Brexit and much to gain.
