How long should Ron get to turn things around?

Fair does, give him 5 games and if he is poor then we move on and you can say TOLD YOU SO

 

No one is saying Ramirez can on his own. It would just help to have him as an option from the bench at the very least. Every improvement is a good thing. You want to give yourself the best possible chance of picking up points. Having him on the bench every game this season and using him he'd have contributed a few goals directly by now imo. And we'd have a few extra points imo. He might have forced himself into the starting team. Rather than just playing ten minutes for an assist and getting us an extra point, then never getting to play again.

 

I'm not surprised you started this.

 

For real. I've always backed Ramirez on this forum, but he's not some kind of team savior. I think it might be worth it to give him some games but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's only average.

But if that did happen, I'm sure some people here would forget all about it and just start moaning that Davis should never have been taken out and now his confidence is shot etc.

 

You don't know. We don't know. It's just a guess. As is most things you wisely post after the event.

 

To answer the OP, I'll give Ron the remainder of his contract.

 

I've being saying all season that Ramirez needs to always be on the bench and being used

 

Maybe Ramirez isn't fit enough

 

I think that is fair, a few of us have been beating give the Ramirez a chance drum

 

You probably haven't heard of him but Lawrie McMenemy was relegated in hist first season as saints manager. Patience sometimes goes a long way in life as in football.

 

Also as for all this Ramirez crap, maybe it's because he's not very good. Hardly set the world alight with Hull did he?

 

Because he's not bern given game time, circular argument, but it did not stop getting Clasie game time

 

Just thinking aloud about managers for a moment. Who do you think are the best managers in the league? Who do you imagine would do a better job than Ron?

No, honestly, I read an article recently that showed in reality it makes bugger all difference.

 

When the time comes of Ron,'s choosing, I want Eddie Howe

 

Bloody hell I was expecting a bit of a meltdown but this is ridiculous.

 

Clasie is getting match fitness/sharpness, Ramirez could be generally unfit.

 

Maybe, maybe not, the game of opinions

 

Are they?

WBA have gone four games without a win, including a defeat today at home to Bournemouth. And have just one win in seven - the same as us.

Swansea have gone six games without a win (the same as us), and just one win in twelve - significantly worse than us.

West Ham have gone six games without a win (the same as us).

Sunderland have gone three games without a win.

Even Everton have only won one of their last six, and two of their ten. Whilst Chelsea have just two wins from their last eight games.

I'd say that is a lot more sides than just us and Villa.

Depends on whether you want those five games to be from the bench, or from the start. I'd be delighted to give him five games from the bench. But from the start? Well unless he proves himself from the bench first, I'd rather not risk us wasting another five games on the off chance that he might do something, just to prove fans right or wrong. I'd rather trust what Ron sees in training, thanks.

 

I've been beating it for four seasons but we don't know if it will work or not

 

Let's be honest. Koeman had his mind made up about Ramirez before he even showed up at the club. He's beeen determined to play Clasie as it's his own signing, even when he was clearly unfit and off the pace. Clasie hasn't made it to the 80 minute mark yet

edit: edited this. not idea why I said the word striker, must have been an auto correct