Off Topic Dark Matter and other Astronomy information.

My point being that you still whinging about a particular observation which was accidentally leaked and then retracted within a day almost a year later shows you are poorly informed and are merely googling phrases which suit your #agenda and not even spending half a second checking your information isn't out of date

 

No you cant just isolate one post like that, out of context trolling, you do it all the time because if you stay in context your post is meangingless.

If people on here are citing the findings of that study it is entirely correct to explain why it cannot be so.. but you just take the actual post and troll it. I explained it, not posted a link, your usual offering

Not as clever as you think you are, discussion is not trolling lad. You are a decent troll but rational objective debate.. not so much

 

Physicists set quantum record by using photons to carry messages from electrons almost 2 kilometers apart
November 25, 2015 by Bethany Augliere

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Researchers from Stanford have advanced a long-standing problem in quantum physics – how to send "entangled" particles over long distances.

Their work is described in the online edition of Nature Communications.

Scientists and engineers are interested in the practical application of this technology to make quantum networks that can send highly secure information over long distances – a capability that also makes the technology appealing to governments, banks and militaries.

Quantum entanglement is the observed phenomenon of two or more particles that are connected, even over thousands of miles. If it sounds strange, take comfort knowing that Albert Einstein described this behavior as "spooky action."

Consider, for instance, entangled electrons. Electrons spin in one of two characteristic directions, and if they are entangled, those two electrons' spins are linked. It's as if you spun a quarter in New York clockwise, an entangled second coin in Los Angeles would start to spin clockwise. And likewise, if you spun that quarter counter-clockwise, the second coin would shift its spin as well.

Electrons are trapped inside atoms, so entangled electrons can't talk directly at long distance. But photons – tiny particles of light – can move. Scientists can establish a necessary condition of entanglement, called quantum correlation, to correlate photons to electrons, so that the photons can act as the messengers of an electron's spin.

In his previous work, Stanford physicist Leo Yu has entangled photons with electrons through fiber optic cables over a distance of several feet. Now, he and a team of scientists, including Professor Emeritus Yoshihisa Yamamoto, have correlated photons with electron spin over a record distance of 1.2 miles (1.93 kilometers).

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This nonlinear optical wave guide converts the wavelength of a single-photon signal to a common telecom wavelength.
"Electron spin is the basic unit of a quantum computer," Yu said. "This work can pave the way for future quantum networks that can send highly secure data around the world."

To do this, Yu and his team had to make sure that the correlation could be preserved over long distances – a key challenge given that photons have a tendency to change orientation while traveling in optical fibers.

Photons can have a vertical or horizontal orientation (known as polarization), which can be referenced as a 0 or a 1, as in digital computer programming. But if they change en route, the connection to the correlated electron is lost.

This information can be preserved in another way, Yu said. He created a time-stamp to correlate arrival time of the photon with the electron spin, which provided a sort of reference key for each photon to confirm its correlation to the source electron.

To eventually entangle two electrons that had never met over great distances, two photons, each correlated with a unique source electron, had to be sent through fiber optic cables to meet in the middle at a "beam splitter" and interact. Photons do not normally interact, just two flashlights beams passing through one another, so the researchers had to mediate this interaction called the "two-photon interference."

To ensure the two-photon interference, they had another issue to overcome. Photons from two different sources have different characteristics, like color and wavelength. If they have different wavelengths, they cannot interfere, Yu said. Before traveling along the fiber optic cable, the photons passed through a "quantum down-converter," which matched their wavelengths. The down-converter also shifted both photons to a wavelength that can travel farther within the fiber optic cables designed for telecommunications.

Quantum supercomputers promise to be exponentially faster and more powerful than traditional computers, Yu said, and can communicate with immunity to hacking or spying. With this work, the team has brought the quantum networks one step closer to reality.

More information: Leo Yu et al. Two-photon interference at telecom wavelengths for time-bin-encoded single photons from quantum-dot spin qubits, Nature Communications (2015). DOI: 10.1038/ncomms9955

Provided by: Stanford University

 

I originally trashed that gravitational waves on this thread long before that was paper retracted also To much disagreement as usual.. no one ever comes back and says "I was talking bollocks after all" though to be fair, I dont consider the retraction as proof of no gravitational waves btw, it's just proof the paper was nonsense. Which was my claim anyway Poeple only like to remember when you are wrong

 

What did you discuss? That particular observation was flawed. Everyone already know it and has moved on. A bad observation meaning nothing, and certainly doesn't invalidate any theory.

How come you haven't replied to my post about entanglement? The one where you misunderstood the results and twisted the words to mean something it didn't actually say?

 

Tbh mate it is too early for your kind of "fare"..

Merry Christmas you trolling ****

 

He's cornered you and you've got no comeback again, so back to hilarity and Christmas cheer I see.

#sisuescaperoute

 

Dont you have to understand the subject before making a call, otherwise you are akin to a boxing judge who is juging the score with his back to the fight
Of course I am totally known on here for running and not fighting my corner yeah?

Behave child I am just not interested in dumbed down troll debate any longer after all the time sI spent recently debating Einstein with retards. It's like playing a game for too long, you can never quite play it like that again. After playing Tomb raider 1 for ages I could never play a tomb raider game again.

So seeing as it is troll 1 and troll 2 back to "discuss" quantum physics, I'll leave you to it.
This is why I stopped reading your posts mate, too much talk about anything other than the suject, cos you dont know **** about it, so you #hashtag

 

#vanallenbelt

See ya.

 

Sorry lads can't talk, too busy running away from your fearsome words on here.

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Was just reading a report there on the enforement of emissions and auditng of CO2 emitters in the EU

Only the UK out of all of Europe, spotchecks factories and such, no other country has been, and even the UK only check 1%, it used to be 5%.

Part of the emissions trading fraud, carbon gets traded when the credits have already been used up because there is no enforcement done, it could not possibly be if they are not checking the actual emitters.

So all those billions in taxes and hiked energy bills, are for ****ng nothing. Not just ye, all of us.

 

Apparently billions in carbon credits have been "Stolen". ****ing fraud all day long, traders and banks making vast fortunes, and we pay for it all, after 2008.. and bailouts and cuts cuts cuts, increases increases increases, since.

We keep bending over.


This ETS is the Paris flagship answer to emissions This was the answer to global warming, emissions have increased by 600.000.000 tons

Developed by financial insiders and politicians, nothing to do with science, this was all set up in the 90s. Enron then created and funded green groups to lobby against CO2 in the late 1990s, after creating the cap and trade market. This is not conspiracy theory ffs all confirmable by fact checking.

 

Started 'Shadows of the Mind' yet?

 

Enron Environmentalism: The Carbon Credits Scam Pumps Millions of Tonnes More Greenhouse Gases Into The Atmosphere

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A UN-endorsed carbon offset scheme designed to reduce emissions has actually increased them massively, a study by a green think tank has found.
As well as pumping much as 600 million tonnes more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, the carbon credits scheme has been abused by countries like Russia and the Ukraine EU and US which have used them as a money making scam.

Vladyslav Zhezherin, one of the co-authors of the study by the Stockholm Environment Institute says:

“This was like printing money.”

Another co-author Anja Kollmuss has told BBC News.

“We were surprised ourselves by the extent [of the fraud], we didn’t expect such a large number.”

“What went on was that these countries could approve these projects by themselves there was no international oversight, in particular Russia and the Ukraine didn’t have any incentive to guarantee the quality of these credits.”

To which the two obvious questions are:

Have any of these people actually been to Russia or the Ukraine?

and:

This stuff that these greenies have been smoking sounds totally amazing. How do we go about getting some?

The corruption they describe is by no means a recent thing. It dates back to Enron whose entire business model was based on dodgy carbon credits, which it used not to save the planet but to close down its rivals in the coal industry.

In the early 1990s Enron had helped establish the market for, and became the major trader in, EPA’s $20 billion-per-year sulphur dioxide cap-and-trade program, the forerunner of today’s proposed carbon credit trade. This commodity exchange of emission allowances caused Enron’s stock to rapidly rise.

Then, as now, this crony capitalist scam was only made possible by the enthusiastic endorsement of greenie-lefty politicians:

Al Gore took office in 1993 and almost immediately became infatuated with the idea of an international environmental regulatory regime. He led a U.S. initiative to review new projects around the world and issue ‘credits’ of so many tons of annual CO2 emission reduction. Under law a tradeable system was required, which was exactly what Enron also wanted because they were already trading pollutant credits. Thence Enron vigorously lobbied Clinton and Congress, seeking EPA regulatory authority over CO2.

And also the support of other key figures in the Green Blob, such as the all-powerful environmental NGOs.

From 1994 to 1996, the Enron Foundation contributed nearly $1 million dollars – $990,000 – to the Nature Conservancy, whose Climate Change Project promotes global warming theories. Enron philanthropists lavished almost $1.5 million on environmental groups that support international energy controls to “reduce” global warming. Executives at Enron worked closely with the Clinton administration to help create a scaremongering climate science environment because the company believed the treaty could provide it with a monstrous financial windfall.

Everyone involved in the green circle jerk stood – and stands – to benefit from the scam.

These include: privileged countries like India and China

The largest and easily the most lucrative component of the CDM market, administered under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), is a peculiar racket centred on the manufacture of CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons), classified under Kyoto as greenhouse gases infinitely more potent than CO2. The way the racket works is that Chinese and Indian firms are permitted to carry on producing the refrigerant gas known as HCFC-22 until 2030. But a by-product of this process is HCFC-23, 11,700 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than CO2. The firms can then destroy the HCFC-23, claiming allocations of carbon credits worth billions for doing so…

Eco-Blofelds, like the shady one-world-government freak and Communist sympathiser who devised the Rio Earth Summit:

Thus we pay billions of dollars to the Asian countries for the right to continue emitting CO2 and other greenhouse gases here in the West, including the £60 million contributed by British taxpayers to keep our civil servants warm. As a result we enrich a small number of people in China and India, including Maurice Strong, who now lives in exile in Beijing, having been caught out in 2005 for illicitly receiving $1 million from Saddam Hussein in the “Oil for Food” scandal. He played a key part in setting up China’s carbon exchange, to buy and sell the CDM credits administered by the UNFCCC – of which Strong himself was the chief architect.

Green gangster NGOs, like the WWF, which stood to make millions from the carbon protection racket:

If it then emerged, however, that a hidden agenda of the scheme to preserve this chunk of the forest was to allow the WWF and its partners to share the selling of carbon credits worth $60 billion, to enable firms in the industrial world to carry on emitting CO2 just as before, more than a few eyebrows might be raised. The idea is that credits representing the CO2 locked into this particular area of jungle – so remote that it is not under any threat – should be sold on the international market, allowing thousands of companies in the developed world to buy their way out of having to restrict their carbon emissions. The net effect would simply be to make the WWF and its partners much richer while making no contribution to lowering overall CO2 emissions.

And what a racket this is. In 2011, the global carbon trading market was worth $176 billion – which, as Jo Nova noted, was the same value as total global wheat production. One industry supplies about 20 per cent of the total calories consumed by the seven billion people on the planet. The other pays for Al Gore’s waterside homes, private jet travel and intimate massages.

 

WWF trading in carbon credits eh.. you gotta be ****ing kidding me folks

 

£60m bill for the CO2 of our political class
We pay billions of dollars to Asian countries for the right to continue emitting CO2 here in the West , says Christopher Booker.

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The lights shine on, but taxpayers are footing a £60m carbon credits bill for government buildings Photo: PA

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6:34PM GMT 20 Feb 2010

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One could not want a better vignette of the gulf that has opened up between our “political class” and the rest of us than a bizarre little item which emerged last week on an obscure part of the European Commission’s website. The British Government, as revealed by the EU’s Official Journal, has allocated £60 million of taxpayers’ money to be spent on buying carbon credits from the Third World for the use of government buildings and other official purposes – so that our civil servants can continue to benefit from the CO2 emissions needed to keep their offices warm and lit.

The Government has contracted to buy these credits, mainly available from China and India, through 10 British and foreign companies, including Barclays Bank and a branch of J?P??Morgan rather oddly situated in a back street in Oxford.

BANKER FRAUD HELLOOOO

Our entire Government machine – politicians and civil servants alike – is now obsessively dedicated to the proposition that we must drastically cut our “carbon emissions” to save the planet, at virtually unlimited cost. But when it comes to the officials and politicians themselves having to make sacrifices, as our own fuel bills soar, they have quietly arranged for the rest of us to shell out £60 million to allow them to carry on much as before.

The story then becomes even more bizarre. The contracts with Barclays, J?P?? Morgan and co – who will retain up to £9 million in commissions – will be used to buy Certified Emissions Reduction (CER) credits under the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) set up under the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.

Easily the largest beneficiaries of this curious system are firms in China and India which receive the credits for showing that they have at least nominally cut back on their own greenhouse gas emissions. They can then sell their CERs through intermediaries, to allow organisations in the West, such as the British Government, to continue pumping out greenhouse gases such as CO2.

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The largest and easily the most lucrative component of the CDM market, administered under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), is a peculiar racket centred on the manufacture of CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons), classified under Kyoto as greenhouse gases infinitely more potent than CO2. The way the racket works is that Chinese and Indian firms are permitted to carry on producing the refrigerant gas known as HCFC-22 until 2030. But a by-product of this process is HCFC-23, 11,700 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than CO2. The firms can then destroy the HCFC-23, claiming allocations of carbon credits worth billions for doing so (while much of the useful HCFC-22 is then sold on to the international black market).

According to the UN Environment Programme – a body set up in 1972 by a Canadian businessman, Maurice Strong, who was its first chairman and also father of the UNFCCC – destruction of CFCs as of last year accounted for more than half the CDM credits issued, in a market which will eventually be worth an estimated $17 billion. Less than 1 per cent of the 1,390 CDM projects so far approved accounts for 36 per cent of their total value.

Thus we pay billions of dollars to the Asian countries for the right to continue emitting CO2 and other greenhouse gases here in the West, including the £60 million contributed by British taxpayers to keep our civil servants warm. As a result we enrich a small number of people in China and India, including Maurice Strong, who now lives in exile in Beijing, having been caught out in 2005 for illicitly receiving $1 million from Saddam Hussein in the “Oil for Food” scandal. He played a key part in setting up China’s carbon exchange, to buy and sell the CDM credits administered by the UNFCCC – of which Strong himself was the chief architect.

The net result of all this trading and jiggery-pokery is that, after billions of pounds and dollars have changed hands, with a hefty commission for those bankers and other carbon traders along the way, there is no reduction in greenhouse gas emissions whatever. But at least our political class can continue to work in warm offices and fly righteously round the world on our behalf – while the rest of us foot the bill.

 

Paris climate deal to ignite a $90 trillion energy revolution
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...o-ignite-a-90-trillion-energy-revolution.html

Oil profits?

 

CIA 1944 foreign government bureaucratic sabotage manual section

— Insist on doing everything through “channels.” Never permit short-cuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.
— Make “speeches.” Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your “points” by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
— When possible, refer all matters to committees, for “further study and consideration.” Attempt to make the committee as large as possible — never less than five.
— Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
— Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
— Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.
— Advocate “caution.” Be “reasonable” and urge your fellow-conferees to be “reasonable” and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.
http://www.openculture.com/2015/12/simple-sabotage-field-manual.html

This seems so familiar. Roadmap for politics

do you have a saboteur at work ?
https://www.cia.gov/news-informatio...2-featured-story-archive/simple-sabotage.html

1. Managers and Supervisors: To lower morale and production, be pleasant to inefficient workers; give them undeserved promotions. Discriminate against efficient workers; complain unjustly about their work.
2. Employees: Work slowly. Think of ways to increase the number of movements needed to do your job: use a light hammer instead of a heavy one; try to make a small wrench do instead of a big one.
3. Organizations and Conferences: When possible, refer all matters to committees, for "further study and consideration." Attempt to make the committees as large and bureaucratic as possible. Hold conferences when there is more critical work to be done.
4. Telephone: At office, hotel and local telephone switchboards, delay putting calls through, give out wrong numbers, cut people off “accidentally,” or forget to disconnect them so that the line cannot be used again.
5. Transportation: Make train travel as inconvenient as possible for enemy personnel. Issue two tickets for the same seat on a train in order to set up an “interesting” argument.

#random

 

why are the creators of bitcoin sought globally to be arrested and locked up but the creators of carbon credits lauded?

 

I always think it's a joke that we're told to turn off our standby lights when Oxford Street burns up in one day what my little red lights are likely to in several lifetimes.