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Come on guys no booing

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  1. stilljaroldcanary

    stilljaroldcanary Well-Known Member

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    Wish people would not groan so much
    We are playing in the toughest division in the world we got there by sneaking in via the play offs with a squad that had mainly be involved in being sent down for not being good enough a year previously
    It's frustrating and sometimes it can get a bit much but booing is unlikely to help the guys overcome adversity I think they know when they are being played off the park
    Was good to see them applauding the crowd at the end, keep applauding them

    Having said all that I just hope Martin stays at RB now he is not good enough at CB and Ryan is so much better
    Would have preferred to see Mulumbu instead of Redmond who did not seem at the races yesterday think that extra steel would allow the defence a bit of a breather and O'Neil could get it forward
    Brilliant performances from Wes and Rudd, Jerome worked his socks off just wish he could score a goal and boost his confidence
     
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  2. THURNBY YELLOW

    THURNBY YELLOW Well-Known Member

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    Jerome just cannot hit the onion bag whereas last year he scored for fun. It isn't the quality of the league though as his general performances have been solid, it is just confidence and his miss was unreal. Hopefully it will all come good soon.
     
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  3. carrowcanario

    carrowcanario Well-Known Member

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    I really feel for Jerome, he really puts in a shift in and offers so much more than the alternatives. He never seems to get a run in the team and doesn't appear to be one of AN's favorites. Yes it was a bad miss, but that was one mistake, how many other mistakes were made all over the field by other players. Despite the miss Jerome was one of our best players yesterday. He was certainly banging them in last year. Maybe his confidence in front of goal has gone, perhaps not surprisingly considering how many times others have been selected ahead of him seemingly for no other reason than their faces fit. No doubt we're start next week with another striker, which certainly won't help his confidence.
     
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  4. jeremygoss

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    Sorry, but they deserved to be criticised by the fans for that first half display!! Yes, I understand we are in a tough division, however players were not showing any commitment or heart. There is absolutely no excuse for that as a professional footballer!! Sorry but if I turned up to my job and strolled around the office, not really bothering, then I would expect to be criticised. (Not sure I have ever been booed at work lol). Sloppy passing, no energy, no tackling, not closing down, not running for the ball. These are basic things the fans should expect from a team fighting for their lives. Look how the team then responded to the fans in the second half? You can't always just blindly cheer on the team!!!
     
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  5. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I read somewhere a few weeks ago (sorry I can't find the source) that CJ was the 2nd most wasteful striker in the PL this season so I am not keen to just shrug it off as just "one mistake" as it appears there is a little more to it than that.
     
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  6. Walsh.i.am

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    Excellent post, JG <ok>
    After the dismal showing he previous week at Watford, you'd expect to see some passion and desire but in the first 45, it looked like nobody cared. No pressing, closing down, movement off the ball, nothing except as goss says, gifting the ball back to Everton most often in dangerous positions.
    OK, we may not have players who can triple-nutmeg opponents, but if they at least did the basics right the fans wouldn't have got on their backs like that. Ironically, it had the desired effect, as the second half side showed enough to suggest they can survive in this league - the first half side would have struggled against lowly Colchester <yikes>
     
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  7. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    If you look at the bottom third of the table, and ignore Chelsea, because nobody seriously expects them to be relegated, we are firmly bracketed in the middle of that six club group on 12-16 points. I dont really see any other club getting involved, so it's three from six. Of those six three have long term management/owner trouble, us and Bournemouth are the usual suspects having been promoted and it's anybodies guess what has happened in darkest Taffyshire. We can't expect a team like ours to compete against sides like Everton with £50million rated players. All we can hope to do is scrap and hope to bundle the ball over the line once in a while,like we did yesterday. We are not going to be Barcelona any time soon. That's why, on balance, I enjoy The Championship more, far fewer primadonnas on the pitch and in the boardroom.
     
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  8. Walsh.i.am

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    Isn't that the point, though CT? Surely there was no fight / desire / heart in the first half and once the fans pick up on that, there's (sadly?) nowhere for the players to hide.
    Different story - from both players and fans in the second period - endeavour leads to cheers, sloppy complaceny unfortunately to the boo boys taking centre stage.
     
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  9. carrowcanario

    carrowcanario Well-Known Member

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    But that's my point. He works hard and with the exception of scoring he seems to do everything else asked of him, He was banging them in last year, so what's different, other than he doesn't appear to be getting the starts he did last year. Our other strikers aren't exactly goal machines. So could it be just a case of confidence, in which case the constant changes aren't exactly going to help him. If I was him I'd be p1ssed off if I was replaced by Grabban who also isn't exactly banging them in, doesn't seem to work as hard as Jerome, offers little in other areas (i.e. Holding up the ball, defending set pieces) and doesn't seem to be a team player. Maybe Jerome just needs a run in the team to get his confidence back. Yes he made a mistake and has made them in the past, but lets face it if we replaced every player who played yesterday who made one or more mistakes, none of them would start next week.

    At least Jerome doesn't go missing in games and has some fight in him, something that was certainly missing last week & the first half this week from most players.
     
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  10. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I don't what the real problem with CJ is but have always suspected that he was not up the job in the PL. He never really got it together for Stoke at this level so perhaps he is just a very good Championship striker but little more.

    The day we got promoted I raised my concerns about our strikers and sadly I have not seen enough from them to suggest my fears were not founded.
     
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  11. KIO

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    As Darren Eadie said yesterday, booing is part of the game and as a professional footballer you just have to get on with it. The crowd was fully entitled to boo yesterday, City were a bloody embarrassment in that first half and it was being broadcast live for all the nation to see. Better than being a happy clapper
     
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    carrowcanario Well-Known Member

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    I agree he's not fantastic, which is why I said on another thread that if we could get 8m for him then we should sell. But I think he's probably the best we have, if we are looking to play one up front.

    We need to spend some money this window to get a quality CB & striker at least, 2 of each if possible. Jerome can go if we can 2 better strikers in than him. Grabban can go in my mind even if all our other strikers were injured.
     
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    We will spend no money in January, none of our targets available..... blah, blah

    Delilah, Winge Jones, McTwatty OUT !
     
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    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    If nothing else, you are consistent :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    :biggrin:
     
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    I think if we can do more of what we saw in the second 45 mins the fans will be 100% behind the team. Generally the fans are backing the manager and the players!! Once the team raised their energy levels the difference was remarkable. Everton had less time on the ball to just spread it around and started making mistakes themselves because they were under pressure. Our players started making runs and freeing up space, players were throwing themselves into tackles. At one time I saw an Everton player with three Norwich players around him trying to get the ball back. Then the fans DID get behind the team and everyone responded. Bournemouth did exactly the same to Man Utd yesterday, so if we can come out on the pitch with the right attitude from the start I think there is something to get from that game and there will not be a boo to be heard!!
     
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    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    I found it strange there was booing at the end. After the first half performance, I would have snapped your hand off for a draw. Needed to win, but the players and manager should have been applauded for sorting it out at HT.
     
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    Sorry but thats not correct. I went to the Everton cup tie where they (Everton) put out a very strong team, we made some changes and played them off the park for the first 70 minutes. We didn't deserve to lose that game, many Everton fans said so after the game. We CAN compete against teams like that, we met Arsenal head on in a very even game! We need to look at our midfield instead of focusing on the defence, which at the moment is pretty solid, also Cameron Jerome can't be expected to score if he's not getting the ball. How many chances did Lukaku miss for Everton! Match of the Day that night showed nearly all the top strikers missing sitters!
     
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  19. Walsh.i.am

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    Fair comments, ILD <ok>
    But in that case, how do you explain why we can't turn battling performances into a few more points?
    The old adages "we deserved more" and "we've not got as many points as we should have" will only get you so far. Bottom three, to be precise, in our case <yikes>
    And the deeper we sink, the less likely the board are to back AN with ££ in the next window - which is clearly what is needed!?
     
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  20. ilovedelia

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    If we buy another "7m" striker he won't score goals unless chances are created for him, which have to come from midfield. As I said our midfield needs looking at and needs to be more forward thinking. Nathan Redmond was so disinterested against Everton we might as well have started with 10 men. We can't afford to carry anyone and I think he's getting a free ride at the moment. It's only opinions and we're all managers aren't we? Can I venture to say that in my opinion we lack a real leader, someone to galvanise the team on the pitch, someone who can recognise when motivation is needed, we haven't had one of those since Grant Holt left.
     
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