Paris

France ain't hanging about! They have started to fight back and have already dropped 20 bombs on a Isis training camp tonight.

 

Was a recruitment place too which is great but France would have had this in the works for months. The reason France have suffered 2 attacks in 8 months is because of their involvement in Syria. Perhaps they haven't attacked us (YET) is because we aren't dropping 20 bombs on anyone and every time we want to do an airstrike labour and SNP vote against it....

and to answer RedRobin about having a war against the muslim world.... that just wouldn't happen. It's only 0.002% of muslims that are involved in this extreme ****. If you think starting a war with Muslims will solve this then you are very simple minded and doing what ISIS want. It is a shame we just cant go over and drop a nuke on them but they are hiding behind innocent men, woman and children. We could do with us, france, USA, Russia and anyone else who wants to help deploying millions of foot soldiers and just raiding the whole country and shooting them down.... Must be a reason why they haven't done it but seems the best option.

 

The reason they haven't previously bombed these areas is because ISIS have been using human shields to protect themselves, have you not seen the pictures of caged women left on the roofs of buildings to stop bombing.

I can only assume the French have decided that any means is justified. or they have found another way to isolate the terrorists out. I hope its the latter.

 

Just start googleing guys-

Islam has one agenda, to convert the world by any means necessary.The Third World War has begun, in spite of the fact that few people recognize it. The conflict isn't between communist and free, as we long expected, but instead between Muslim and the rest of the world. Although militant Muslims in Iraq and Syria have stolen the headlines, it is not long before we see them around the world, making a play for power.

What are you going to do to save your neighbor? Help save Christians from genocide.The Quran also instructs that the entire world is to be converted. Islam is not just for a few Middle Eastern countries. No, the banner of Islam is intended for all nations, all the world. And if enticements of paradise don't work, then that banner should be raised with the help of the sword. Advice from a terrorist: stay silent and you'll be fine.This is mainstream Islam, not extremism. The extremists are the liberal Muslims who think Islam has little business spreading itself by violence. Those Muslims, although the vast majority, are apostates and they will be lumped together with the Christians, the Jews, and other infidels, kafirs, and devils that must be destroyed to make way for a new Islamic State.These people will not stop at the borders of their native states. The "Islamic State" will not stop at the Turkish or Saudi border. Boko Haram will not stop at the border of Nigeria. Abu Sayyeff will not stop in the Philippines, and Al Shabaab will not stop with Somalia. In fact, the world seems to be on the brink of a global Islamic uprising that will not only include the active, militant movements that exist across Africa and Asia, but may soon include outbursts of activity in Europe and the Americas. It's coming, fast. Christians are being murdered around the world at a rate unprecedented in history. Even during the time of the cruelest Roman emperors, persecutions were occasional, limited affairs-violent in their own way, deadly but brief. We are now facing a long-term, sustained threat in the form of fundamentalist Islam. Jihad, as a conflict against the rest of the world, is being glorified across the Islamic world.Islam sees the world in black and white. All things are either good or evil. America and the western world is a great evil. America itself is the Great Satan, and we're going to have a very hard time arguing that point because the United States is quite evil. Disagree? Think about it. The United States has legitimized or accepted every form of vice imaginable. - Americans consume more drugs than any other civilization on the planet.- Americans traffick humans and live off the fruits of modern-day slavery. - Every kind of libertine sexual perversion is permitted. - Men can "marry" men with the blessing of the law, ****philes and rapists are released onto the streets. - Pornography is literally everywhere, even in our mainstream commercial advertisements. - Atheists propagate their faith, often at the expense of others. - Divorce rates are extremely high. - Women have babies with multiple men (men are responsible for this.)- Half of the population is on the public dole in some form. - And we have Kanye West, who literally believes he is greater than Jesus. Americans worship celebrities and the dollar, not God or Allah, and we grow obese on rich foods. We eschew hard work. How can we expect to command respect or instill fear in our enemies when we're too cowardly to face an enemy man-to-man? We restrict the military to using drones and cruise missiles instead of meeting the jihadist face-to-face, a strategy that has never worked in all the ages of asymmetrical warfare. Even the president of Iran found this cowardice worthy of ridicule. America is a laughing stock. Americans are craven, cowardly, obese, slovenly devils that deserve no mercy after decades of policies that have persecuted Muslims around the world. We shouldn't act surprised in the face of their aggression. We're weak, especially morally. These Muslims truly believe they are doing Allah's work in killing the infidel. They are also more capable of doing this work than at any time in the past. The militants now have modern technology and they have leveraged it to broadcast their mission. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube have all been leveraged to terrible effect. The Islamic State produces slick videos, even videos which depict brutal executions have a staged, finished quality to them. The message is subtle but clear-these are not ordinary terrorists and this is not an ordinary movement. The terrorists are already recruiting in the United States and around the globe. Hundreds of fighters have come from the west and thousands more from other countries around the world. The Islamic State has sympathizers everywhere. Islam is not confined to a state. The religion has no regard for what a passport says. One is either in or out, an ally or an enemy. Examine your life. What do you think you are to Islam?The black banner of the Islamic State has appeared in the Philippines, in Nigeria, Somalia, and North Africa. In the western regions of North Africa, militant Islamists are growing in power and soon they too will grab their share of headlines. The world has not seen such a threat from Islam since the battles of Tours (732) and Vienna (1529). World War III has started and we remain asleep. How much longer before we get serious about this very real, existential threat to Christianity and our nation? The only defense is to turn back toward God, to convert souls to Christ and abandon our wickedness. Only then will we have the moral strength to confront Islam and stop the world-eating movement in its tracks.

 

Let's not forget that The Muslim Council Of Britain had to be coaxed into condonimg previous attacks. What message does that send ?

Like a previous post says, inwardly a lot of them rejoice when an attrocity occurs,

All of the people who ran out into the streets of New York to rejoice on 9/11 when the 2 planes hit to World Trade Centre tells you all you need to know.

 

If you read the bottom sentence it states "the only defence is to turn back toward God, to convert the souls to Christ and abandon our wickedness"

Well done Red Robin you posted a link to tell us that Islam wants to take over the world, when it's a religious sect trying to convert towards Christianity, and take over the world.

So really has not a lot to do with world war 3, but just on the off chance world war 3 starts I've taken the day off work to get every thing in order

 

This just about sums me up, even though I came across the opposite when the refugees was coming our way. That was simply because the country can't sustain anymore growth.

 

Sod it - I've got no holiday left, so looks like I'll miss it.

 

Be under no illusion people...the world "was" changing with the cowardly act ISIS were carrying out, but since the events in Paris, the world "has" changed. I would even go so far as to say this could even be the early stages of WW3. This is not the last attack they will carry out in mainland Europe and who knows where the next one will be?....what is the biggest event in the western worlds calendar?.......Christmas. Hoards of shoppers packed into malls ect. God only knows how many innocent people are next and I am not a gambling man, but I will wager there are plans afoot for such attacks already. UK?, Germany?, USA?...all three?
Next will come the "retaliation" from groups who "have just had enough". Normal folks with so much pent up anger and frustration inside that they can't hold back any more.......mosques attacked, businesses destroyed ect.
The world is absolutely fcuk'ed and its a sad, scarey future for my children and grandchildren.............
Don't even get me started on these so called refugees............

 

Only a matter of time for both possibly as the West will undoubtedly continue to blow the **** out of Syria.

We could see a very lawless society develop in the UK very quickly if this did kick off.....

The downside if this happens are the innocent Muslims who are genuinely anti IS, and the shop/restaurant owners who would be the likely targets.

But something has to give and if does then the Police will be powerless to stop it. Unfortunately, like with the Croydon riots it will just attract idiots who will have no clue other than causing damage and injury.

 

MindTheGap wrote on here :

'And for the Isis if they wanted to get to the UK, they would send people by plane or car and boat. They wouldn't be sending them off on dangerous migrant boats and hit hiking in the back of lorries'.

Seems you were wrong, 'you stupid boy'.
When will you 'lefties' ever learn ?

 

We only know about the "stow aways" on vehicles that are caught, not the ones that get onto our shores without detection. How many have gotten here so far this year? Last year? the last 5 years?...how many of those are IS fanatics? 1, 10, 100?.......we have absolutely no idea how many fcuked up nutters are in OUR country hell bent on terrorist acts......no idea whatsoever.

 

The only thing we can be reasonably sure of is that they ARE already here.

 

The worrying thing is, who supplied their arms and are our nations/politicians truly innocent? Bristol's own, Tony Benns view!

 

I don't think there has ever been any doubt in most people's minds that all Islamic radical terrorist groups have nothing but bad intent on their minds, and now the world has received clear evidence that the carnage will not stop. The response from political leaders will be instrumental in where we go from here and unless the action against these idiots is co-ordinated both on the ground and in the air between the coalition forces then success could be fleeting. I understood the air campaign was supposedly ramped up several months ago but an odd bomb here and there hasn't even dented the surface, and until such time as a strategic plan attacking all aspects of this hate group, and not just the ones with the guns, is implemented they will continue to gain strength.

Don't you think it's time for all the people suspected of having ISIS sympathies or connections to be rounded up and put under the hammer by the authorities? Perhaps a good starting place would be the hate clerics who have been committing treason for many years by advocating an uprising and the insistence on introducing sharia law in to the countries that offered them hope and a safe haven. The time for political correctness ended in Paris on Friday and it's time for the peace loving world to unite and say "NO MORE" and I don't think I am out of line by saying that should include all the true followers of the Islamic faith. The dividing line between good and evil is becoming fuzzier with each passing day and my message is that you are either with us or against us, with no middle ground available.

Rhetoric and nice words can't cut it anymore so it's time to stop the bullshit and human rights nonsense and get the job done whatever it takes. They are constantly playing their trump card and we just sit back in shock and indignation trying to decide what card to play next. Haven't the major nations of this world ever heard of the encirclement strategy which is designed to strangle those stuck within? I will agree that the problem is a lot more complicated than that but the essence of success is going for the heart of the issue and messing around in the wings only prolongs the inevitable.

Here was me thinking religion offered the world a chance at redemption but in reality it only offers false promises and hopes of a better world beyond what we already have in abundance, so why are there still followers around prepared to destroy a planet that they believe was offered up by their varying versions of a superior being? The world has now officially gone crazy, so send in the clowns to sort it out.

 

Well written Mike.
We are, and have been, as guilty as can be in this country for our liberal views and tolerance of people who made much of our society when much more than a firm hand was needed a long time ago,

The cancer that the likes of Abu Hamza was allowed to preach should have resulted in him being deported the first time he ever cascaded his hateful views. But it took years of legal positioning to get the job done. And even then the liberal brigade were baying for him to be allowed to say what he wanted. Those sort of people are equally to blame for the namby pamby attitude we've had to unchecked immigration, whilst allowing substantial areas of the UK's cities to be non English speaking.

I'm not the greatest fan of Australians, but they do take a zero tolerance approach to this sort of thing and fair play to them. I'm sure their view of 'play it our way by our society and standards or get out and stay out' would be blown out of the water here, but just maybe, things will start to change now.

The message is clear. The vast majority of right thinking UK citizens will want to see additional severe punishments, deportations, asset stripping, and removal of human rights to anyone found to be sympathisers of these warped ****ers.

I'd be all for shooting first and asking questions later, and seeing a return of capital punishment to anyone found guilty.

Let those who sympathise with IS in the UK and who want to travel to Iraq, Syria or Afghanistan and 'join the fight' put their hands up. I will personally drive them to a port or airport of their choice.

But they wont, because they are cowards at heart.

 

How was I wrong?

Terroism relies on right wing twats discriminating against people. These people then are vulnerable to ISIS and other ****ty groups and thus are convertated into believing extremist ideology.

Terrorists also want to cause a ****storm and make people hate others and be afraid. I am not afraid of refugees as unlike half the population I'm intelegant enough to distinguish refugees, migrants and terrorists.

I will not change because of these attacks and nor should we discriminate against Muslims because they're the only ones I really feel sorry for. They are living with hate because someone is committing atrocities in their religion.