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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Very good post but in reality, internationally we can't because we're so far up the yanks arseholes who are the mouthiest ****s on the face of the earth.
     
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    Of course it's been planned in advance, what we are seeing here is a sleeper cell that has been activated due to the killing of Jihadi John.

    They will be other sleeper cells across Europe who have targets and plans that will just be waiting for their order to go.
     
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    I would do the same, in all honesty.

    Me and a few of the lads were looking at Euro 2016 next summer in Paris, that's not going to be happening now.
     
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    That's a load of **** I'm afraid mate. Jihadi John was a national Brit with a degree. To say this stems from no hope in wrong. It stems from people being ****s.
     
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  5. John Cardew

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    The Quran doesn't actually condone the killing of people just for being non-Muslims. Taken in context, every violent quote in the Quran is based on non-Muslim's attacking Muslims, and Muslims fighting back. Unfortunately, these fanatics claim that Non-muslim countries are "oppressing" Islam by not following Islamic Law, and use that as justification to "defend themselves"! It's a completely warped interpretation. Also, combatants are the only legitimate targets, not civilians.

    These are the facts of the Quran. In fact, there's a strong argument that the Bible is more promoting of cold-blooded murder than the Quran is.
    Taking single lines of text, out of context, is what many do and is very unfair.
     
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  6. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Absolutely mate. The staging of the competition itself must be under serious doubt.
     
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    Notice the difference in ISIS and Al-Qaeda tactics though. Al Qaeda went after Charlie Ebdo staff and people in Authority when they hit Paris, they went out of their way to let civilians know they weren't being targeted.

    Forward about 10 months and you have ISIS nuts trying to murder everything in sight.
     
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  8. Billy Death

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    All religions are bollocks mate but islam is the bollockiest of them all.
    As far as religious bollocks go, islam would win the world cup but I've no doubt that Christianity would be in the semi-finals, knocked out on pens by the Hindu's.
     
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  9. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    I don't think anybody is arguing that this doesn't stem from evil ****s wanting to promote evil. If people like Jihadi John didn't have such a rich pool of people feeling desperate to tap into though then sick people like him would find it a lot harder to promote their vile filth. Some people are just sick bastards like you say, and will exploit others to get what they want.

    If I was told that the hospital my kids were in had been bombed by Russians, or that the only reason my kids had nothing to eat was because the Russians were trying to starve us, and the only info I was being fed was that all Russians were evil then I'd probably be on the first boat to fight the bastards. In reality it would be a decision made by a few people sat in some palace (or more likely bunker). That is what a lot of these people are being told about the west and where a lot of the ability to recruit comes from. The situation they are in makes it easier for the evil ****ers to brainwash people who might otherwise be far more moderate.
     
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  10. John Cardew

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    I'm a Christian mate but I can agree with you. Fundamental Christianity, as with all religions, is mental. And if I wanted, I could blow up a football stadium and highlihght 6 or 7 verses in the Bible that appear "justify" my actions.

    Islam is a disgusting religion for many, many reasons but there aren't any religions that condone the acts of terror in France yesterday.
     
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    Saudi funded Wahhabism must be ripped root and branch from Western Europe. Anything less is to allow the poison into the most cancerous growth imaginable.

    Nearly 40% of British Muslims would like Sharia Law in the UK. If they would like to live under such a repulsive law may I suggest ****ing off to a country which has it.
     
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  12. John Cardew

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    These terrorists attacks have been happening for centuries mate. Long before Russia was involved in the middle east. People don't want to admit that there's nothing you can do but that's the reality. There are a group of hardcore fundamentalists who are tragically misinterpreting a religious book. Unfortuantely, with more than a billion believers, there is never going to be a day where there aren't Islamic fundamentalists.
     
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    And there was me thinking you were an intelligent kid...
     
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  14. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    Sorry - I wasn't clear. I was just using Russia as an example country in an attempt to make it something we could relate to cos of the cold war (probably showing my age) and taking the middle east out of it. My point was just that if the ordinary people on the ground think any country or group of countries is causing harm to their loved ones then it provides easy pickings for fundamentalists to exploit.
     
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  15. John Cardew

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    Many would contest that mate I'm sure <laugh>
     
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    Got you mate <ok> No doubt western involvement in their countries has exacerbated the problem. These attacks getting worse is though, in my opinion, mostly down to the current technological age. It's getting easier to spread the message, easier for fundamentalists to interface, easier to coordinate attacks. It will only get worse from here on out I would expect.
     
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  17. Class of 73

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    I'm off to France on Monday, not going would probably be what, as we should call them, cowardIS wants.
    Worrying though and rightly wouldn't be wanting my daughter or granddaughter over there any time soon.
     
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  18. Dorty Dogbreath

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    Be careful when you go mate. Whereabouts are you going to?
     
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  19. Class of 73

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    Toulouse, so should be ok. Off to help out a mate.
     
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  20. FTM Dave

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    I've got tickets for three Euro 2016 games (Lyons and Paris) for me & my bairn, and we'll be going. I'm bloody-minded and no way are these sick ****ers going to ruin our holiday. The ****heads could just as easily target the UK, Italy, etc., the next time.

    I completely understand why others would see it differently though.
     
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