Thursday night debacle was a new low for me and I suspect most long suffering fans. The lack of desire, ability and quality doesn't require any further comment. It's patently obvious for all to see. I asked myself, what next, even thinking relegation might be a sort of remedy, maybe start again, although obviously a painful one. Then Cellino dropped a couple of bombshells yesterday, he wants out and culminating with the news he had reached agreement in principle with LFU, Leeds fans United. I've been sceptical about this group from the start but then I've become sceptical about everything Leeds, and with good reason. I spent many hours last night reading various contributions on waccoe from various contributors and I've come to one conclusion. We've nothing to lose. These guys are offering shares for 100quid that may sometime contribute to a fans ownership of the club. Barcelona and Bayern Munich have done it to great success. Portsmouth and Swansea nearer home. I've included the following from another waccoe member who says it far better than I can " I am not affiliated in any way with LFU and in fairness only know what I have read on the website, in the media and on Waccoe, about Dylan and others involved. Time may prove my thoughts and opinions wrong, but I cannot help or change the way I feel now. Blackburn was a new low in 40 years of many lows, a spineless display by a team of cowards, who showed no aggression, no fight and who laid down and died against an average but organised Blackburn side. We need drastic change! For me this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. With three kids, birthdays and Xmas coming up I did think for a little about stumping up £102.70, (even if ultimately I will only lose about 10% of that if this fails). In the end many Leeds fans have rightly complained over such a long period about not having a voice, being ignored, being helpless and not being cared for or listened to. At last, however tenous or doubtful it may be that LFU can accumulate enough backing to buy the club, surely any right minded Leeds fan has to be behind this? This is our chance to have some input, a voice and even if ordinary fans are not behind every decision, to at least have people, as fans of LUFC, influencing those that are appointed to run the club. This is probably the only chance we, as fans, will ever have to have a chance of a voice, some proper input into our club. After the mismanagement by Ridsdale, the "alleged" corruption from Bates and GFH, the stupidity and waywardness of Cellino....surely this is a no brainer? Do we want continue on the path to oblivion under the mad Italian, become a non entity with our history erased under Red Bull or just maybe have a chance of something different? Who knows if a fans organisation will make the right decisions, probably not always, but at least the decisions made will be made with the intention of having the clubs and fans best intentions at heart. Not at the whim of idiosyncrasies of unbalanced individuals, to suit the balance books of a major conglomerate or just as a vehicle for loading non existent debt, (with exorbitant interest rates added on), to aid the lifestyle of potless Arabs. LFU seem to have wealthy backers behind them. Do they have enough to buy the club? Only Dylan, his associates and the potential backers know this. Surely though we should hope, try to make this happen and do everything that we can as ordinary people and fans of Leeds Utd to give this every chance to succeed from our perspective. If Dylan, LFU and the potential backers of this scheme fail to come up with the finances then at least most ordinary fans that get behind this scheme will know that we did our bit, we tried, we invested and we believed. Just like the fans attending away games for the hope, the craic and love of Leeds that turn up every week. Does it need that much money after buying Cellino out to run our club? Did Bournemouth, Swansea and others like them have vast millions to get promoted or to remain competitive? No, they had a hard working team of players, coached well, fighting together, showing passion and commitment. How much money does it take to get players who will fight for the white shirt and not lay down and die like our so called "players" did against Blackburn? You don't need to spend millions, just to buy the players with the right desire, hunger and work ethos. Then you need a coach who can motivate and adapt his tactics to the way the game is going. Over the last 10 years or so it has seemed that this is like rocket science, its bloody not! If you have the infrastructure of the club in place, stability, sensible policies and then employ the right staff it is possible to achieve this. This is never likely to happen under egotistical mavericks like Cellino though. For once we have an opportunity to try to get what most of us, most fans of any club would love...ownership of the club we support in the hands of the fans, being run by people appointed by the fans, with fans making decisions in the best interest of the club. If you prefer shopping now on a Saturday, or you have a second team such as Liverpool / Chelsea, etc, you would rather watch Sky Sports on a Saturday afternoon or you would rather Cellino / Red Bull were in charge then just do nothing. If this potential LFU backed takeover fails and we fall into oblivion under Cellino, Red Bull or whoever then please don't complain that you never had a choice, never had a chance at changing things...you did...you just chose not to do that. The time for action is now, this is the opportunity most Leeds fans have wanted for so long! Let's go for it and see what happens. After all we are used to showing blind faith, hope and a never say die spirit in the face of adversity and desperation. That's why we are Leeds fans isn't it? "
Let's see how things progress or more likely unravel over the coming weeks. It all sounds too much like a snake oil sales scam to me.... Quoting barca and Bayern neglects to point out how much under the radar state aid both clubs get from their regional governments..... Before you get too excited this agreement in principle neglects the only thing that really matters. No selling price has even been discussed never mind agreed. The more I read it the more I see it as poor little rich boy threw his toys out of the pram because a few Leeds fans sang for him to leave. It all looks a bit pathetic....
Im not getting excited although wouldnt take a lot. Just pointing out this is worth a gamble in my opinion for 100 quid. I spend that on jerseys in a year. If it doesnt come off, at least fans will have tried. Otherwise, god knows who or what Cellino will sell to
" It is inconceivable that any serious investor would consider buying Leeds United without an assurance to be able to also repurchase Elland Rd and Thorp Arch. whoever owns E.R. and T.A. owns L.U.F.C. but who is it ?. I am not affiliated in any way with LFU and in fairness only know what I have read on the website, in the media and on Waccoe, about Dylan and others involved. Time may prove my thoughts and opinions wrong, but I cannot help or change the way I feel now. Blackburn was a new low in 40 years of many lows, a spineless display by a team of cowards, who showed no aggression, no fight and who laid down and died against an average but organised Blackburn side. We need drastic change! For me this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. With three kids, birthdays and Xmas coming up I did think for a little about stumping up £102.70, (even if ultimately I will only lose about 10% of that if this fails). In the end many Leeds fans have rightly complained over such a long period about not having a voice, being ignored, being helpless and not being cared for or listened to. At last, however tenous or doubtful it may be that LFU can accumulate enough backing to buy the club, surely any right minded Leeds fan has to be behind this? This is our chance to have some input, a voice and even if ordinary fans are not behind every decision, to at least have people, as fans of LUFC, influencing those that are appointed to run the club. This is probably the only chance we, as fans, will ever have to have a chance of a voice, some proper input into our club. After the mismanagement by Ridsdale, the "alleged" corruption from Bates and GFH, the stupidity and waywardness of Cellino....surely this is a no brainer? Do we want continue on the path to oblivion under the mad Italian, become a non entity with our history erased under Red Bull or just maybe have a chance of something different? Who knows if a fans organisation will make the right decisions, probably not always, but at least the decisions made will be made with the intention of having the clubs and fans best intentions at heart. Not at the whim of idiosyncrasies of unbalanced individuals, to suit the balance books of a major conglomerate or just as a vehicle for loading non existent debt, (with exorbitant interest rates added on), to aid the lifestyle of potless Arabs. LFU seem to have wealthy backers behind them. Do they have enough to buy the club? Only Dylan, his associates and the potential backers know this. Surely though we should hope, try to make this happen and do everything that we can as ordinary people and fans of Leeds Utd to give this every chance to succeed from our perspective. If Dylan, LFU and the potential backers of this scheme fail to come up with the finances then at least most ordinary fans that get behind this scheme will know that we did our bit, we tried, we invested and we believed. Just like the fans attending away games for the hope, the craic and love of Leeds that turn up every week. Does it need that much money after buying Cellino out to run our club? Did Bournemouth, Swansea and others like them have vast millions to get promoted or to remain competitive? No, they had a hard working team of players, coached well, fighting together, showing passion and commitment. How much money does it take to get players who will fight for the white shirt and not lay down and die like our so called "players" did against Blackburn? You don't need to spend millions, just to buy the players with the right desire, hunger and work ethos. Then you need a coach who can motivate and adapt his tactics to the way the game is going. Over the last 10 years or so it has seemed that this is like rocket science, its bloody not! If you have the infrastructure of the club in place, stability, sensible policies and then employ the right staff it is possible to achieve this. This is never likely to happen under egotistical mavericks like Cellino though. For once we have an opportunity to try to get what most of us, most fans of any club would love...ownership of the club we support in the hands of the fans, being run by people appointed by the fans, with fans making decisions in the best interest of the club. If you prefer shopping now on a Saturday, or you have a second team such as Liverpool / Chelsea, etc, you would rather watch Sky Sports on a Saturday afternoon or you would rather Cellino / Red Bull were in charge then just do nothing. If this potential LFU backed takeover fails and we fall into oblivion under Cellino, Red Bull or whoever then please don't complain that you never had a choice, never had a chance at changing things...you did...you just chose not to do that. The time for action is now, this is the opportunity most Leeds fans have wanted for so long! Let's go for it and see what happens. After all we are used to showing blind faith, hope and a never say die spirit in the face of adversity and desperation. That's why we are Leeds fans isn't it? "[/QUOTE]
Looks to me that Cellino is buying time, maybe to set up faceless offshore companies ( a la Bates), who will buy out his share in Leeds, leaving him to remain and asset strip the Club. Shameful that the Football league allows clubs to be treated in the way yours has over the course of the past three or four ownership stake Needs sorting
You're unbelievable you said you wanted him to go,he said he will now you're moaning because he's going.
He isn't going. What he has done is agree to sell to a group that he knows won't be able to meet his price. He will give them an ultimatum in a month or twos time to meet the asking price and when they can't he will be able to say he tried to put fans in charge but they were all mouth and no trouser time wasters (so not his fault).In the meantime he diverts everyone's attention from what he has done and is doing to our club. Chesh for a bright bloke you don't half get conned easily.
Firstly I know little to nothing about LFU But I can't see it happening, and I really don't think it is such a good idea. To run a football club you do need some sort of wit and experience running something as big as a football club. I sort of agree with Chippy as well about what Cellino is doing, its actually a no lose situation for him because if LFU do come up with the funds I'm sure he'd be happy to take the money and run now. Whereas I doubt he is expecting them to actually be capable of doing it. Personally I don't want the rich arab owner style either. I want someone to come in with a clear plan and have the know-how to successfully implement that plan.
Do you believe Cellino will care who buys the club if LFU don't? It'll go to The highest or only bidder likely to be as big a **** as he is. So the whole cycle starts again. The intention with LFU is to Ning in people, Pearson or similar to run the operation. I don't know if it'll work but they deserve credit for trying
If no one comes up with the money its not Cellini's fault is it,we are the club no one likes.not like the tarty little kittens who claim that name but everyone has a soft spot for.Apart from councils who don't like them dumping their caravans everywhere.
Agree with Josh and Glory, it isn't going to happen. It would be a monumental task that would take months to complete, I am a little surprised that anyone cannot see this as another Cellino lie. It will unfold and ruffle feathers over the weeks to come, watch out for the price when Cellino tells you he has ploughed more money in than is believable.
He's offered to sell,if no one will stump up the money then its time for the moaners to back him as he's all we have.Where's the enterprise guy ? Wanted to buy the club so he said well stump up the money then,but he won't because like bates and all the others,only after something for nothing.
Correct. Sy why are fans that are trying to put together a deal being dissed from day one by others that couldn't be bothered even looking into what they're trying to do
Because it has no credibility, and these people are being played by Cellino.... Christ on a bike, did you guys learn nothing from how the likes of bates, Cellino, smiley salad and noodles operate?
would put up maybe £200 myself,but only if its put in a trust fund to buy shares or return to fans if doesn't go through.
should put up 500,000 shares at £100 pounds each,which would give £50 million,hopefully enough to buy club and serious invest in players.
If you have cash to give away please donate it to the get the paddies across fund. At least you will see exactly how it was spent when you wave goodbye to it...
That's the way it works. If it doesn't proceed, 90% is guaranteed for a refund. Full explanations are on waccoe Chesh
