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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    She's an expert on **** all from my experience. I studied Economics for four years 20 years more recently than her and can't recall 1% of the subject.
     
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    Well spotted, Uber, the poor woman's been misquoted - it must indeed have been Kenyan economics
     
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    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    I'll set 'em up....
     
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    and I will try and vote on it
     
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    I only observed from afar, but was Her Majesty's Government's reception of the newest dictator of China as nauseatingly obsequious as it seemed? ££££$$$$$ Kerching!!!!!
     
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  7. Stroller

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    Poor bloke, he really is between a rock and a hard place. At least someone had the guts to mention that routine torture and execution is no way to run a civilized nation. Worth the daft gear, even if it won't make any difference and will just have irritated the dictator.
     
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    Amusing song reportedly sung by Middlesbrough fans at the weekend, to the tune of Lord Of The Dance.....

    Cameron, wherever you may be
    Your'e not fit to run our country
    You ****ed a pig and made it squeal
    Get off your arse and save our steel
     
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    He never did **** the pig

    ...it was oral sex :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Poetic license.

    Mind you, that defence seemed to work for Clinton - 'I did not have sexual relations with that porker'
     
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    Clinton 1 Cameron 0.
     
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    Chewbacca arrested in Ukraine after campaigning for Darth Vader



    Chewbacca was arrested at a polling station in Odessa when local elections were taking place across Ukraine. He was reportedly apprehended when lending support to Darth Vader, who was attempting to vote at the time.
     
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  14. Bwood_Ranger

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    What's all this blather today about the House of Lords rejecting a bill?
     
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    Why would Chewie campaign for Lord Vader?
     
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    Difficult to give an interesting answer on this, but basically 2 things:

    - Lords make Osborne rethink his Tax Credit plans for those on low wages, which the more you look at them look punitive on some. Labour and Liberal Lords voted against (several times) but also some Tories critical, including ex Chancellor Nigel Lawson. In fact Osborne doesn't need to deliver on this to meet his fiscal targets, so it's a piece of ideology. He'll change it because quite a few Tory MPs are unhappy with it too, and their majority is pretty slim

    - Broader point is the role of the House of Lords constitutionally - they have blocked (in fact the most they can do is delay, Osborne is not obliged to change the policy) a peice of the Government's budget. The argument is that the people have elected the Government, not the Lords, which shouldn't interfere. So they have done a good thing (in many people's opinion, including many Tories) but it's somehow anti-democratic.

    Just highlights the very strange role of the House of Lords, surely the lowest quality second chamber in any democratic nation.
     
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    The Tories have had a mare with this policy.

    The Constitutional question is another matter, but really highlights the need for an elected second chamber.
     
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    You could keep nominated peers, but make the parties' numbers in the second chamber reflect the percentages of votes cast for the commons.
     
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    **** it, bin it and start again, you only hear of them when they do stuff like yesterday which just highlights what an anarchronism it is. What is a second chamber for? Primarily to suggest amendments to legislation proposed by the first chamber I think. To do that you need experienced, professional people not a bunch of people appointed by patronage.
     
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    It's a safety valve, or supposed to be I think.
     
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