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  1. FILEYseadog

    FILEYseadog Well-Known Member

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    Im 59

    I love going to City Games at the KC

    I love away games even more .

    But im pissed off people like Party Hull are being priced out
     
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  2. Sunbeam-Tiger

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    Think QPR started it of when they got promoted in 2008 they put the prices up by 50% and did away with a lot of concessions.
     
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  3. PLT

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    Did he say he'd put them up even further if we got relegated? Let's stick to comparing like for like shall we.

    The dismissing of other clubs cheap tickets for whatever reason is stupid. At City you can't watch your team for a season unless you can spare £531 a season. At every other Championship club and more than half of PL ones you can get a pass cheaper than that. For £1 more you can watch Man United. Even if there are restrictions, that's better than not being able to go at all. There's nothing to stop City having these same arrangements that other clubs have rather than just trying to pour scorn on them.

    On the radio this morning James Mooney countered the point that Hull is a poor City by saying that over half of our season ticket holders are from the East Riding which is of course a lot more affluent. Perhaps that's because less people in Hull can afford it then. It really isn't an external factor. We should be embarrassed that the support inside the City is so poor, not using it as an excuse to justify excessive pricing.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    **** off ****er. You're the one who's desperate. The Trust has increased membership by 3 in the last two meetings. <laugh>
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I know your a thick **** but you cant compare like for like can you.
    Man City ran by a despotic regime after good publicity with a limitless budget or a bloke from Westella inheriting a large debt.
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

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    If thats what you think from what i put i feel sorry for you.
     
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  7. PLT

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    So have you given up on that bollocks about AP? Do you now accept that him saying he'd freeze prices upon relegation is rather different from Allam increasing them upon relegation, and lying about it?

    You really hate being challenged, are you sure you're not Ehab?

    I wish we had a 'despotic regime' like Man City's.
     
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  8. Barchullona

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    Run by a despotic regime after good publicity? Thought you were talking about our club for a moment.
     
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  9. The Omega Man

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    The problem is that it is not a fair comparison. Readings "cheapest" season ticket is £135 yet the BBC fails to say that Hull City has a very similar ticket priced at £255. Which makes a nonsense of the claim that we have the highest starting price for adult season tickets.

    Very poor reporting by the BBC.
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    He is referring to the regime in the country where the money which finances Man City comes from. Chazz isn't very good at expressing himself.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    It's true that the price quoted for Reading is not for an adult ticket, but their adult tickets are £395 and you can get a family ticket (2adults/2kids) for £813, so they are much cheaper than ours.
     
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  12. Barchullona

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    A lot of articles don't give the whole picture. An article in a paper today quotes Barcelona season tickets without mentioning you have to be in the membership scheme, about £150 a year, to get these prices. Barcelona has 105,000 members so that is £15 million a year to the club on top of any tickets bought. Bayern Munich's cheapest price is quoted without pointing out Bayern restrict the sale of season tickets to about 30,000 so that they have a wider range of people getting tickets and becoming fans instead of the same people renewing year after year. However to go in the draw for tickets you have to be a member of the club. Currently they have just over 250,000 members paying 60 euros each. So that is about £11million before they sell a ticket. That is more revenue before they sell a ticket than a lot of clubs take in through ticket sales.
     
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  14. PLT

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    I really don't like this kind of attempt to deflect attention from the issue. Adults can't watch City unless they can afford at least £531 a season. That's a simple but shocking fact. This attitude of 'nothing to see here' by both the club and some fans (just the Allam fans of course) doesn't help at all. Instead of criticising every other club's cheapest ticket why don't we do the same if it's so simple? Oh no its like the ASI fund isn't it? Everyone else has got it wrong and Ehab's the only one who understands what football fans really want.

    It's the same debate we have on here all the time. City under the Allams do X, and the same posters every time try to justify whatever it is and pretend they wanted X all along. It makes no difference what X is. If the Allams did it, it's worth defending for the same handful of posters every time. If I'd said a year ago "We could have the most expensive ticket in the Championship next season and people will still pretend it's all fine" they'd have denied and claimed they think for themselves and don't just support Allams Tigers whatever they do. Yet here we are.
     
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  15. The Omega Man

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    Quite a few clubs have membership schemes here. The season ticket price is often cheaper but it is impossible to buy one unless you are a member. Man United is a prime example.
    Reading is a different case. They are cheaper. But they struggle to fill their Stadium at times and the cheaper ticket prices do not seem to work for them that well.
     
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  16. PLT

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    We struggle to fill our stadium! A single-club city the size of Hull should be able to fill a ground much bigger than the KC. Yet we proudly claim that more than half of our fans are from outside the City. Maybe if the people of Hull could afford to watch Hull City they would?
     
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  17. DMD

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    Like many statistics on Hull, the argument about fans coming from outside Hull is probably a consequence of the peculiar boundaries as much as anything.

    It is a poor article as it is selective on its use of figures and the information it presents.
     
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    It's a load of bullshit, the club pretty much explains why.
     
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  19. PLT

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    In what way is it selective on its use of figures? Do you agree that City fans have to spend more money than those of any other club in the Championship (plus half of the Premier League) do in order to watch their team?

    Are you suggesting the BBC deliberately selected certain figures to make Hull City look worse than other clubs?
     
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  20. DMD

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    I think a fair few of the examples of how it is selective have already been mentioned on this thread.

    Would you buy one if they were the cheapest in the league?

    The cost of away tickets dwarfs's the cost of a pass, and most of the money goes to the opposition. Maybe those seemingly less expensive clubs get the away fans to subsidise them.
     
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