Fair enough NSIS. I have a certain kind of respect for people that stick to their guns, regardless of how silly their opinion is. Goodnight all.
funny, I thought HIAG was taking the piss out of you and your false indignation over how British taxpayers money is spent Mr Ex-Pat man, surely someone so incensed would also be complaining about his own tax-dodging football clubs rather dubious taxpayers cash. No?
There is a distinct difference! To my knowledge, ENIC have done nothing illegal in moving TH Properties offshore. Yes, you can question the ethics of it, but before we get into the ethics of our respective owners, perhaps you'd like to take a good long look at those of your own?! Maybe it was the lateness of the hour, but I assure you HIAG was referring to your colleague's faux indignation about racial,words and slurs. Yes, I currently live in Spain - where I pay my taxes. However, I lived and worked in the U.k. for over 40 years. In that time, I always paid my taxes. All this is getting away from why was so much taxpayers money used to help convert a stadium for the use of a private commercial enterprise. I.e. WHU?
You criticize Gold and Sullivan for the OS move and complain how it is costing the tax payer money. You then defend the spuds' owners' tax avoidance (also costing the UK millions) by saying "they are doing nothing illegal". That argument just doesn't stack up mate. Gold and Sullivan have done nothing illegal either. Our proposal offered a better deal to the British public than Daniel Levy's plan to flatten a stadium, which cost 100's of millions to build, to dust. You then complain that we are straying from the point. If you look at the original post, it is you that is taking the thread off topic old chap. This thread is about Tottenham's questionable ethics regarding their finances. I don't know why you are bringing West Ham into it.
Why don't you read what I posted. I have never accused , or suggested Gold & Sullivan have done anything illegal. What I said was that if you want to question the ethics and morals of our owners, look at those of your own. The question remains, why was so much public money used to benefit a private commercial enterprise?
You just keep saying the same thing over and over again. You complain that Gold and Sullivan are costing the public purse with the OS move but defend the spurs owners tax avoidance by saying they are doing "nothing illegal". Explain that. Some of Gold and Sullivan's fortune came from the adult film industry. I assume that's what you are getting at? What's your point? As far as I'm aware, they have paid tax on all of those earnings. This is a conversation about finance and football stadiums. Not a debate on the ethics and morality of pornography.
This really getting tedious. Are you suggesting that neither Gold nor Sullivan have offshore companies? You, or your fellow Spammer brought the question of ethics into this, not me! I don't have to defend anything. They are two separate questions. As far as I'm aware, there is nothing illegal in what ENIC have done. I have not suggested that WHU have done anything illegal either. However, the question STILL remains, why was so much public money used to update and convert a publicly funded stadium purely for the benefit of a private commercial enterprise? Why were WHU not asked to make a far more significant contribution to those costs?
I'm starting to worry about you NSIS. You are so misinformed on every point you make you are tying yourself up in knots. I'll say it once more. Your owners cost the country millions of pounds by operating offshore and avoiding paying tax. Your defence of that is that is that they are doing "nothing illegal". You complain that West Ham's OS move is costing the country millions and yet you won't accept "we are doing nothing illegal" as an argument. I have an idea. How about you put forward a better use for the stadium NSIS? But first let me educate you a little: We are going to be using it for around 20-25 days of each year. We are paying £2.5M a year for that. Over £100K each time we use it. That's £250M over the duration of the lease. We have sold Upton Park and a big chunk of the proceeds are going towards the conversion. We won't own the stadium. We are renting it. We are sharing it with athletics, cricket, rugby and concerts. Everyone should be thanking West Ham for making a use of it. Not whining and starting embarrassing little petitions about it! One last thing...... I don't have access to G&S' finances but I will leave you with this quote from David Sullivan: "I'm not some tax exile living in the Bahamas, who never watches a football match, doing it for a huge, personal financial gain, as is the case with the Spurs owner,"
Ignore him. I think he's acting thick to try and rile you. Nobody could be as stupid as Trick is presenting himself. Can they?
I think you should take SD's advice NSIS. He's offered you an opportunity to exit the debate before you embarrass yourself further. Let's talk about something else. I see Adebayor has been left out of your squad. Those £100K a week wages have gotta hurt. David Sullivan played that beautifully didn't he? Stringing Levy along about signing him then pulling the plug at the last minute Poor old spurs. What goes around eh?
Im going to take S.D's advice and ignore you from now on. However,as you seem so keen on education, why don't you educate yourself by reading this? Sullivan is a ****ing hypocrite. He's getting a huge financial advantage from all this, and he knows it!.. http://www.spectator.co.uk/features...pic-legacy-paying-to-build-the-stadium-twice/
He's either a complete moron, or just deliberately pretending to be that thick. Either way, I've had enough of him. If he changed the first letter of his user name to a 'P' that would be spot on!....
If David Sullivan hates tax dodging businessmen owning football clubs, then why did he sell Birmingham to Carson Yeung? Given his arrest and two-year investigation over tax, he might want to keep his mouth shut on the subject, anyway.
Remind me PNP, did those investigations ever come to anything? Oh that's right, both Sullivan and Brady were cleared with all charges dropped. Try again fella.
Did I say that they were convicted of anything? Slagging someone off for moving when you've been arrested for tax dodging is a little rich though, isn't it? I'm sure that Baroness Tory Donor didn't do anything wrong, though.
