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Price of success

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by LIBERTARIAN, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    Well,the team have exceeded my expectations,and I'm more than happy to admit it.
    Terrific performances all around,from the Manager to the player's,even the one's who only make the bench,for it is they who exert their own kind of pressure on those actually on the field of play.

    The downside to success for a Club like Swansea is that the big boys are now casting envious glances in a westerly direction.
    Should the team continue as they have started,I envisage a plethora of offers come the January transfer window. Ayew,Montero,and Gomis could be gone.

    If Liverpool and United don't get their act together,perhaps even Monk may be tempted away.
     
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    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Well I think we can expect this interest from clubs near and far, it's part of the parcel of success, every club is a selling one if the offer is good enough.

    Another consequence of having an English manager, is that that a certain team who plays in Wembley stadium might be interested, I don't think even Monk will turn that down should it be presented to him.
     
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    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Good to see you again Lib :)

    I'm worried too but I think the Club will batten down the hatches until the close of the window. Besides, why go anywhere else? We're in a Champions League slot! <laugh>
     
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  4. Stumpy

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    I'm not too worried Lib, its an inevitability of success and its one we've had to endure ever since our arrival in the premier league so its not new to us.

    This team under Monk appears settled and their togetherness is manifesting itself into effective performances on the pitch.

    Ayew has fitted in perfectly and seems very happy. He is a humble guy and I doubt the flashing neon of Rich Utd or Big City will attract him away, not this season anyway.

    Gomis is chasing International selection and would he be a fool to risk his Indian Summer by going to play anywhere else. Its taken him a while but now he is indispensable and a long way from the player he was as understudy to Bony. Playing here and playing so well, he must have been noticed by Deschamps.

    Re: Monterro, he's safe until the summer now due to his 'niggling injury'. Good timing and just could be us being cute, to put off any pre deadline suitors.

    Re: Monk - Imo has been groomed for years to manage our club. I don't think he was due to take over when he did, maybe that following summer, but he's proved his worth and has exceeded all our expectations. He has much to learn if he wants to be a top coach/manager and the best place for him to learn is here so, imo, he'll be here for a couple of seasons yet. After that, well that all depends on the success, failure, of the club but either way, we could well be talking about Rangel as our new rookie manager after Monk.

    Next Summer is going to be fun but I hope and think we're ok until then
     
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    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post Stumpy and agree with all except your comment on Rangel as management material? Don't think Rangel has it in him for that, though maybe a coach. Regarding our players being poached, only Monty will be at risk, but with his injury I don't see that happening any time soon, maybe next summer after the season is over. Monk won't want any of his new recruits poached, and most would be a side ways move anyway. where would they go? Man City to sit on the bench? Arsenal? they don't like handing over the cash, Liverpool? Why they are below us and average at best, Manu? who we have in our pocket? Chelsea? They only buy famous names, so I think we will be fine now that we are without doubt a top 10 Premier league club.
     
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    I would like to think Monk would want to stay for a few seasons to build up his CV, but I thought the same of Roberto and at the end of the day you can't really blame managers when it appears to an upward move.
     
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    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    It would have to be something very special to get Monk to move away from Swansea City, maybe Southampton but I doubt he will move any time soon, he just loves the area and the club...........<ok>
     
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    Is Southampton really a step up? Think it'll have to be an offer from one of the big boys to tempt Monk away.
     
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    It's not a step up Monty. As you say if it's one of the big boys then that's a different matter. He played for us a lot longer than the Saints as well so I can't see it.
     
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  10. Boss

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    Don't be drinking any of that special juice Dragon, as thats the only reason for discussing Saints and very special in the sentence :biggrin:

    Monk looks to be on a mission to take Swansea to the top 6, which would be a fantastic achievement, but just to look at recent history, in the previous 6 seasons, these are the points total for 6th.

    62, 69, 63, 64, 58, 64.

    Last season you had 56 points. Now you have a better squad, more confidence, so its within Monk's ability and his squad to find 10 extra points, and if he manages to push ourselves and Liverpool close then I expect "bigger" clubs to show a real interest.

    The real test will be when you suffer injuries, loss of form, mainly Gomis as that guy is also on a mission to be a success, take away his goals/performances, do you have anyone to step up?
     
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    We can't know what is in the future, if Gomis loses form then Ayew could do a job, or one of the other centre forwards on our books. They may take his place the same way the he has taken Bony's. We are not a big club who stockpiles players to restrict them from other clubs, we are small team who will adapt
     
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    I don't see any of the top 4 ever coming in for Monk regardless of his successes.

    All the top four are foreign owned and don't have any preferential thoughts towards a Brit as manager, maybe Man Utd.

    The reason top clubs usually employ European managers is because they come with more European links and a broader understanding of European football and its markets simply because they have come from that environment. Unless Monk moves to Europe first I doubt he'd get a shot at a top club in prem simply because his knowledge of European markets isn't as broad as a manager from there.

    Its all peaches and cream for us right now <ok> no one is going anywhere, yet.
     
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  13. Jager

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    Ah but if he continues in the same way as now there could be interest coming from England for him in the future. A young successful top flight English manager is sure to interest the FA.
     
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    If he carries on the way he is then we will be a top club simple ourselves undefeated played 2 of last year's top 4 and taken 4 points. Last year we took nothing from Chelsea only a minus 9 goal difference
     
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    If any of the top 4 clubs ( Man u, Man c, Arsenal and Chelsea) I dont rate Liverpool as a better club ATM then the only reason anyone will be tempted is for money. they will know they wont get regular football and the exposure they get with us, Bony dont get much of a mention or games these days that will hinder his international chances and that has to be a big factor when moving just for the money.....Look at Sinclair he was another that went for the money and was out of touch for 2 years and should he have stayed with us he would probably be earning more than he is today......
     
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    ...when Monk was Manager. He's learning on the job and quickly but he's not the finished article imo and other clubs can see that. Tactically he's come on leaps and bounds and these days usually gets his subs right as well. I think most owners will be watching the Swans with interest to see where we end up and may then express an interest. But that works both ways doesn't it? If we do really well then any move could be sideways and less attractive.

    I wouldn't worry about Monk just yet but Montero, Gomis and Ayew and one or two others will definitely be on the radar.
     
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    I only said maybe Southampton, because of Monks previous connections, like Martinez with Wigan, and I don't think of it as a step up and probably Monk wouldn't either, but football is a funny old game, so you can never tell what the future holds, but as I said previously it would have to be something very Special, 'The England Job' would fall into that category in my view, not sure if many other clubs would other than maybe Arsenal, and Manu, but Chelsea and Man City will more than likely always go with foreign managers. Anyway I don't see him going anywhere soon.............<ok>





    Fans of all clubs everywhere are talking about Garry Monk, why is that?
     
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  18. Kwame B

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    I'm surprised (and very very happy) that Freddy Fernandez doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar in terms of a transfer offer. He's a class player with incredible pedigree, he and Ash provide us with such a solid backbone in the heart of our defence and long may it continue. A snip at 7 million too!
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Monks next job will be the England job and that wont happen for a couple of seasons yet, He knows fully well that all the big clubs would be a hell of a risk as he would have no choice than to finish in the top 4 and if he dont that could ruin his ambition to be an England manager.
     
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    England have a track record of inept appointments as national manager so even if Monk does prove himself longer term then they wouldn't offer him the job anyway.
     
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