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  1. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    This lad is quality. I'm sure everyone's seen the free kick by now but how about this for a pass...



    Shame Defoe fluffed his lines.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Not seem the free kick yet. Unbelievable pass.
     
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  3. LAMackem

    LAMackem Well-Known Member

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    The lad's just an awesome beast...freaking me out already....lol. Can we get him signed permanently before some top four club gets him? He's exactly what Arsenal are looking for him........sign on him then sell him for 50 million.......lol
     
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  4. ROBOJOHN

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    After 1st appearance or 2 I thought he,d not done much but coming into his own now, must be a keeper if we can
     
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  5. concrete tony

    concrete tony Well-Known Member

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    His free kick was a cracker, the pass superb. He uses the ball well when he has it however our midfield has lost the middle of the park in most of our games. That said perhaps it's the poorer players on the pitch who are to blame for that.

    I think this lad will get better and better.
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Well the good news is he is trying. He is required to keep up this sort of form for a full season and let's all hope he does because this league needs players like him.
     
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  7. Rick O'Shea

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    We have pants.
     
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  8. Meniscus

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    Stats showed he has covered most distance on the pitch at the 70ish minute mark - about 7800m.
     
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  9. Brian Storm

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    First game I saw him when he hit 100% passing accuracy over 90 minutes I knew he was out of our league. Now as he's getting fitter he's showing his defensive prowess too, he's very very good in the tackle. I'm very very impressed. This lad was written off by those who decided an incident they hadn't seen made him a liability and a bad signing. He conceded 1 foul yesterday. Told you he wasn't a dirty player. It's off the pitch you've got to keep an eye on the little scamp.
     
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  10. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Potentially the best player at the club in most of our lifetimes.

    We have the option to buy and hold all the cards, if he keeps going as he is we must try and tie this up in January.

    We may still lose him seasons end, but we'd make a massive profit on the lad worst case scenario.
     
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  11. marcusblackcat

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    Sign him in January! Sell him seasons end. Great business sense.

    Truly next level! One of the best I've seen in there in the little I've seen. If he remains consistent he will move on to bigger and better things.
     
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  12. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to think we could keep him mate, but the reality is if he gets back to the player clubs were looking to pay close to £30million for, and shows people he's mentally back on track, we'd struggle to keep him. If we signed him for £6million or whatever we agreed though and sold him for close to £20million, then that's a massive boost for the club.

    Who knows, maybe he falls in love and stays a while, but this is a lad with a lot of France caps and pedigree, we have to be realistic and think he'll want to step back up.

    What a player he looks and he's still not close to fully fit, he's a beast.
     
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  13. Brian Storm

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    Today's prices a sale could go into orbit, get someone like Man City dangling on the line we could ask silly money.
     
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  14. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely mate. His passing stats at Rennes were staggering, best in the league I believe a league with quality, quality midfielders in it like Valbuena, Verratti, Lucas, Pastore etc.

    We are seeing that now, the lad doesn't even look up. I've said a million times the second Hutchison left, not Phillips, we declined. This lad is Hutch and more, admittedly Hutch scored a fair few. The similarities are in the way they are always a step ahead and getting the team moving. As his fitness improves and players learn his game, he will be a ****ing weapon.

    Hutch used to drive everything on and control the entire park, I think Yann can do the same but looks a better passer.

    I ****ing loved Hutch like.
     
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  15. Brian Storm

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    Hutch was wicked, bit more of an advanced midfielder but from what I've seen M'Vila can split a defence from deep. Yann looks like he has more assists in him than his record suggests.
     
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  16. concrete tony

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    On this day however many years ago we signed Flo and Stewart. This was the beginning of the end for Reid and us. IF Dick can bring in a quality Striker I think we could be decent, (still flirting with relegation but not nailed on as I thought we were before the first game) We struggle because the ball doesn't stick up front and allow us out of out half. Defoe cannot play in Dick's system.
     
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  17. Nads

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    5 goals in 5 games suggests otherwise mate.
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    He can like, he just needs to put in a defensive shift, he doesn't like it no but as Dick said, Defoe will play were he tells him. If he doesn't pitch in defencively and the goals don't keep flowing he'll end up dropped. He's not going to play central often, he needs to accept that. He's done very well on the side of a front three offensively but defensively he needs to do more tracking back. He's doesn't need special skill for that, he needs work rate and commitment imo.
     
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  19. concrete tony

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    3 goals against Divi

    I'm going to have to disagree with you again Funky. He is too small to play up front on his own. Dick has said it doesn't work. When he plays on the left he doesn't do enough defensively. I think Defoe will score goals but he is playing in front of PVA who needs all the help he can get. Defoe doesn't have the discipline for that role. I would rather we had a player who knew how to play that position. Clearly the whole thing is not being helped by the fact that we have to play either Graham or Fletcher as they are both poor and don't bring much to the team. I think Defoe is built for 4-4-2. Not 4-3-3. He is the type of player you build your team around or you don't play him. Rather like Bent. Yes he has 5 goals but 3 in the league cup against poor opposition (even Rodders scored 2). personally I would play him up front and play Watmore or Johnson when fit. Hopefully a striker will be brought in. What does everyone else think? Can Defoe play on the left in the 4-3-3?
     
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  20. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Ok so he has 3 v lower league, but still has 2 in 4 v PL oppo.

    People say he 'can't play in the system', he can. He didn't score enough last season as the midfield had no guile and we were pumping high balls at him. He's doing very well season to date in my opinion. If Dick wants him to play wide left, that's Dick's issue not Defoe's, he's always been a centre forward.

    Is the consensus that we buy a big lump and launch central balls to them hoping they stick? Cos if so, who's onto the knockdowns? The wingers? Then if they lose the ball the weakest links to date, the 2 wing backs, are wide open with zero cover.

    So, we need a big strapping centre forward who can hold and turn, that's not easy, they are like gold dust. Giroud, Dzeko, Bas Dost. We can't buy that player on a shoestring. Adjust they system to suit Defoe I say, a natural goalscorer we already have, we aren't gonna sign a player who fits the mould, if we were we'd have moved for Austin.
     
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