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Can anyone make sense of this? - Players wages slashed

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by awjm, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    I've read this article and it doesn't make complete sense. Is it just bullshit from a **** newspaper?

    Charlie Austin and Rob Green among QPR stars not paid their full monthly wages as club attempt to avoid overpaying players who could leave before transfer deadline


    • Junior Hoilett, Matt Phillips and Sandro have also had their pay reduced
    • QPR believe a number of players could leave the club by 6pm on Tuesday
    • The west London club are undertaking a number of cost-cutting measures
    • They hope to avoid overpaying players who leave before the deadline
    • Disgruntled players expressed their grievances to club officials on Friday


    Charlie Austin is among a host of Queens Park Rangers players who have had their monthly wages slashed in case they leave the club next week.

    In an unusual cost-cutting exercise, a batch of players have had August's pay packet reduced in case they leave before Tuesday's 6pm transfer deadline.

    Players were due to be paid on Friday, but some squad members awoke to find they were missing money, around a week's worth, from their monthly pay.

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    Players were not advised of the decision.

    The cash was purposely deducted by the club so they do not overpay anyone who leaves before Tuesday's deadline.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rs-leave-transfer-deadline.html#ixzz3k9QPI57t
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  2. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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  3. 1982_Ranger

    1982_Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks. They will get paid whatever their contracts say they will. I doubt that features a last week of the window clause.
     
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  4. Supergod00

    Supergod00 Active Member

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    Been widely reported that there has been problems with hsbc bacs payment in the news, much more likely to be to do with that and crappy reporters!!
     
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  5. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

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    Breach of contract, total crap & how the hell do they know anything.
     
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  6. IwasanotherwatfordR

    IwasanotherwatfordR Well-Known Member

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    Would love to know the source of that report. it really seems highly unlikely to be correct.
     
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  7. hammersmith junior

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    Can't be true surely,even we're not stupid enough to piss off our own players the day before a match!
     
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  8. Shawswood

    Shawswood Well-Known Member

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    I believe this, but then again I am a bit gullible; sounds like the sort of thing one might do if players are paid in advance, which they probably are.
     
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  9. YorkshireHoopster

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    It would be very usual under a contract of employment for wages to be paid in advance but then I don't come into contact with professional sports contracts and given the gullibility of the owners at the top it might well be that the players agents were able to persuade them that their man risked starvation and homelessness if he did not have money up front. Equally I know nothing about contracts of employment for journalists. Perhaps they are the exception and have to produce something to be paid whether it is true or not. If it did happen, it does sound incredibly foolish. Nothing worse than that to persuade them that their future lies here. No doubt we'll soon see this afternoon
     
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  10. SW Ranger

    SW Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I really wonder how many footballers rush to check their bank statement around the end of the month!!!
    Most, these days, have everything done for them. Load of bollocks!!! What tatty journalism.
     
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  11. terryb

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    Three points.

    1) Many people are paid in advance, myself included. Every month I'm paid on the 25th & that covers contracted work till the end of the month.

    2) If your paid on the bank's last working daty of the month, as Friday was, the calculations/bank submissions have been carried out in advance. Therefore, all employers are assuming that you will be working as contracted for the last days of the month.

    3) As Tuesday is September, leaving then would not involve any August deduction.

    Edited as it wasn't written by Charlie Sale!
     
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  12. sku

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    There's no smoke without fire. However for this to be true then we have to assume:

    a. Players are paid on a weekly basis.
    b. Players are paid a week in advance - rather than the reverse

    It still doesn't entirely knit together though.

    Let's work this one through - assume that one of the players alluded to has a contract that equates to £42,000 per week. Pro rata they will earn that salary at £6,000 per day.

    So for this to be true - that player has to have been paid differently than usual, ergo they have presumably checked their payslip and bank account on Thursday 27 or Friday 28 and noticed a discrepancy; hence the claim of a dispute on Friday.

    This assumes that the salary will be paid from a period further than 01 September - if the claim is to be true. So let's assume that salary is paid in advance on a weekly basis from Saturday to Friday inclusive - 29 August to 04 September.

    The only way for this story to be credible is for the salary to be reduced by pro rata rate of £6,000 per day x 3 (assuming that the player will no longer be contracted with the club from 02 September forward). i.e. £24,000 paid not the usual £42,000.

    This is QPR though - so remember the golden rule (the 'reverse-midas-touch' as some have previously opined) that anything can - and often does - happen!

    <laugh>
     
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  13. KooPeeArr

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    The situation will be as Terry and Sku say (with the only variable being the frequency of pay).

    Either way, it would represent a breach of contract if true.
     
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  14. sb_73

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    I think we have done this, but have promised them a loyalty bonus of £2m each if they stay until after today's match.
     
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  15. YorkshireHoopster

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    That would be even worse. There wouldn't be much point in paying it to them only for them to jump ship on Tuesday at 5.59pm
     
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  16. LoopyR

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    paid in advance? really?
     
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  17. sb_73

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    Sorry Yorkshire, I was joking.

    We will sell them all for 'undisclosed' fees to save Les' blushes when we don't get the non-negotiable valuations we have gone on about.
     
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  18. Sooperhoop

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    Anyone paid monthly is paid on a daily rate x 365 divided by 12. The report I read said they are paid monthly and the time from payment date to the end of the month was held in deduction should they leave in the last week. If true it shows the club is still being run poorly as it shows a lack of trust and is hardly conducive to team harmony. Someone needs to bang some heads together...
     
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  19. UTRs

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    Many Tony left a note like the former treasury chief secretary Liam Byrne did about there being no money left?

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    I hope not anyway...
     
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