It'd be one hell of a coincidence if it wasn't. Anyhow, I'll leave him to cry and moan that you lot deserve more, because you support your team, like a normal fan should.
Apologies! My comment was for the most part tongue in cheek. Having suffered from depression for over a decade I am the last person who would want to trivialise it. I am not one of those who sits back and thinks that we have a god given right to be top 10. I don't believe, as fans, we deserve to be to entertained week in, week out, because players can have off days. What we do deserve however, like fans from all other clubs, is to be represented, from the board room down to the players, by people who give a **** and try their best for the good of the club and supporters. I don't mind getting beat every week, as long as they try, and as long as the boardroom try and rectify the problem. But for 3-4 seasons now we have had to put up with a bunch of ****ers happy to pick up fat wage packets whilst posing in front of brand spanking new sports cars at the expense of the long suffering fans, doink underage girls (allegedly), perform horrifically on the pitch etc. As far as being a supporter of a football club, its soul destroying.
See that I'd agree with, blame the players, you do deserve more from them. The minimum requirement is that they try and in that respect you're getting not much bang for your buck.
No need to apologise either mate, I got the analogy and wasn't offended by it, nor did I think you were trivialising depression. I just think there's a difference between your analogy and what I still consider as a basic emotion, albeit admittedly one that I have not much experience in feeling!
After crawling away from the 'pre-match meet up thread', when people posted selfies, it was only a matter of time before the snide came crawling back. His last avatar was a Mag in disguise and so is this one ........ he probably thinks he's being subtle
At 3.26 on the opening Saturday of the season, a Sunderland supporting friend of mine tweeted ‘Can the season end now?’. They had just conceded a third at Leicester and his mood was not improved by my reply that if the season were to end when he wanted, his side would be relegated. That mood has darkened further after another miserable weekend. I would imagine all Sunderland fans are feeling the same, but are the players? Lee Cattermole looked shell-shocked in his post match interview on Saturday. please log in to view this image He spoke of Sunderland teams of the past always fighting for each other but the fight wasn't there with this group, adding that "We need to show each other the respect we deserve". His manager is bemused, suggesting some players "don’t know what to do" and that there were ‘"eleven players but they were not a team". In an attempt to turn things around, Dick Advocaat called a crisis meeting on Sunday, but it will surely take more than that. In any case, Younes Kaboul looks so disorientated at the moment that he probably went into the wrong room. please log in to view this image Sunderland fans deserve better than crisis meetings, fire-fighting and mid-season appointments to rescue them at the death. So much media focus and criticism over the past few seasons has been aimed at Mike Ashley and Newcastle that in some ways the operation at Sunderland has got off lightly. Yes, the joke is that they start badly, sack the manager, bring in a ‘big personality’ to motivate flat players, win the derby, surprise a top four side away from home in April or May and survive. It is no joke to long-suffering supporters and surely it can’t work every season. A turnover of managers (13 in 13 seasons including caretakers) leads to a turnover of players. There is no common theme between the appointments, bar the big personality trait of the last few, and they will have knowledge of different markets. Paolo Di Canio even had an agent, Roberto De Fanti, as his sporting director. The squad ends up with no continuity. Charlie Adam told me over the weekend on Match of the Day 2 Extra that the key to the success of the evolution of Stoke City under Mark Hughes was to keep a nucleus in the dressing room. A nucleus that keeps new players in check, educates them on the club procedures, keeps the Stoke ethos alive. Can there even be a nucleus at Sunderland? According to the club’s website, only Cattermole, Seb Larsson, Wes Brown, John O’Shea and keeper Jordan Pickford have been there for more than four years, and Brown and O’Shea have lost their places to Kaboul and Seb Coates. please log in to view this image Cash has been splashed. According to the last set of Premier League accounts, Sunderland’s wage bill was £70m for the year to July 2014. That’s the 8th highest in the division. Some will tell you they have to pay over the odds to get players to the North East, but if that is the case then you would immediately question the mentality of the player, wouldn’t you? This is a Premier League club, with a big ground, close to some of the most beautiful coastline in the country. Although, at the risk of sounding like Roy Keane, maybe beautiful coastlines are near the top of the agenda for the modern footballer. There is hope though; Sunderland have a director of football now in Lee Congerton. Once on the books of Crewe, a club who have always tried to do things properly, he has worked with Jose Mourinho, Brendan Rodgers, Andre Villas-Boas and Frank Arnesen and has European experience through fulfilling a similar role with Hamburg. Could he provide the continuity? The chance to build a nucleus? Also lost in the furore of the shambles on Saturday was the story around the Sunderland goalscorer: Duncan Watmore. He’s 21 and joined the club straight from non-league Altrincham. He’s young, talented and intelligent. He’s a winger who has played for England Under 20s while still studying for an economics degree (note in the mind of older readers, this immediately makes him the new Steve Coppell). He is not the finished article. He is not the saviour of Sunderland, but he doesn’t give the impression of just being at the club because they pay well. If the club could develop him and a few more like him they might end up with a nucleus and not a fan wanting a season to end after just 26 minutes
Mate, it took seconds as soon as he was backed into a corner about being patronising, he started losing it, just like the old days. One rustle of the feathers and away he goes into the night, not to return until the next thread involving tickets
No, we were still the best supported club in England by way of attendance. Manipulating facts can only make you look clever, until the whole picture is revealed.
Still don't see how 41000 is bigger than 43000 no matter what the other clubs are doing maybe this is only in manchester land.
It's not bigger, I didn't say it was. We just weren't poorly supported when we were doing badly, that's all I was ever attempting to prove pal.
Fair enough mate but your lot doing badly and our lot doing badly are two different things if your team had our results over the last 42 years I would be surprised if your support would be any where near what it is now.
You're wrapped up in a completely irrelevant part of my debate with ****nugget. It's nothing to do with which team you support, no fans are simply better than other fans, you going to support your team does not entitle you to reward. There's absolutely no way that you could prove my team would get less fans if we started underachieving, you're only suggesting that to big your own fans up some more and add some weight to this divs theory that you fans deserve more from your owner.
Dear dear me. Very poor. Isnt the real reason that you don't like my posts is that you like to dominate the board andnmany of the posters, with your thoughts and opinions and just can't stand ones opposing it. Your aggressive stance on anyone daring to not toe the Smug party line usually comes in the form of threats and darker undertones. You are probably used to getting all your own way in life but this isnt real life its an interest forum where people are free to express their opinions as they see fit. Me and my so called miserable face (to be honest I totally pissed myself laughing when I read your post saying mind) will continue to voice my personal opinions on an open message board, at a time I specify, despite what you think or say. If the club domsomething right they will be positive thoughts but If they dont then they will be critical. Anyway, thought you were going to block and ignore my posts or mentioning me.
Well I can prove we get 43000, what I said was i would be surprised if you got 41000 after 42 years of **** but no you are right I can't prove it.
