Im right so Im not surptised you have no response . You seem to forget we have Hernandez and Wilson which sort of compensate for the Remys and Bonys at our rivals. I am not saying we shouldnt buy one, just that there are other options out there. Other clubs seem to manager just fine. A goal scorer in modern football doesnt have to be a centre forward. Surely even you know that Treble.
Mate wtf are you on You are the semantic king. So disingenuous it's unreal. Suarez and Neymar and Messi. I cant even begin to explain to you the stupidity of that post. It's one of those where you're thinking "Where do I start!" I'll keep it simple for you. I dont care what you class them as. They are each 30+ a season goalscorers. If you gave me ANY 1 of those 3 up front for us I'd be happy. Stop playing semantics and stop the deluded sychophantic ****ing to defend the team.
Sorry, did I miss out the bit about how each has players who step up? Pretty sure I included this part but the discussion is about centre forwards. Madrid have Benzema, Barcelona have none (they had Villa and Ibra before but they ndo not have a player of that sort now). Ronaldo despite his goals, is not a striker. Along with Messi he is a different kettle fo fish to any other player around. Costa is better than Rooney, as is Aguero. Giroud isnt but the difference between the former 2 and Rooney isnt that much when all play as centre forwards. Rooney has a far bigger role as a player than the others though. I dont know if he can handle it all tbh. Our attack is an unknown quantity just now. Depay has had 2 games. He should have a few goals to his name already. Mata plays passes he has no right too, he should have two assists to his name already. Rooney in form would be a great striker. We are just rusty. So many changes to the team and a tough pre season campaign can do that to any team (ask our rivals and Barcelona). Pedro is likely to come (the meltdowns over Schneiderlin were very similar, then he signed, nice and easy) and he is a goal scorer. Someone to add another 15 or so to the tally. and its TWO ****ING GAMES. Two games we won, pretty comfortably in reality without breaking sweat. Patience, its na great thing. If in September weve signed nobody, sold all our attackers and changed our name to Manchester Tigers, then there will be something to moan about. Its fecking tedious.
Sorry, did I neglect to mention we need a goalscorer? Im simply pointing out it doesnt have to be an out and out centre forward. Mostly because the ones out there are infact ****e. So we need someone capable of scoring lots of goals, be it a CF, WF, goal scoring midfielder or other. Are Messi, Suarez and Neymar centre forwards? No, they are not. Barcelona are a whole different ball game and do things no other club can or will. If we are going for CF then Lewandowski is the best of the lot (aguero is brilliant but never fit). Hes next to impossible as is the player I suspect is van Gaals favoured target, Muller. Who also isnt a CF, incase you were wondering.
@lostboi stop being an idiot. Ronaldo isnt called a striker so you cant call him a forward or count his goals. Technically Benzema is their only striker so fck you! Suarez is not called a centre-forward so you can't count his goals either. Same for Neymar. It's alright lads bcos Barca and Real play with a world class front 3 we dont need any more strikers! Nothing to see here folks. Go home please
Pretty sure, and by all means, feel free to check..... I said we need a goalscorer. You stick with hunting down those CF and I will wait to see which 'goalscorer' the club brings in. He may even turn out to be a CF.
You are crossing your definitions here UiR, Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez and Neymar are most certainly strikers. They are not (as you are trying to point out) centre forwards. You don't need a top centre forward to score goals if you have good strikers in your team. I fail to see your problem with our options, we have 3 centre forwards and possibly 2 very good strikers (Memphis and Pedro), if Januzaj ever reaches his potential he will be a third very good striker.
Why the fck would we need a wide forward to replace Rooney (which is what's been talking about before you came wading in with your size 11's) IF barca are "a whole different ball game do things no other club can or will" then why oh why oh why are you using them as an example to compare with United I dont care if it's Lewondowski or whoever. At this stage I havent mentioned any names. I and many others have simply identified we need one. Fck knows what you're on about tbh. You seem to take any questioning of our situation as a personal attack on the club and go off into some sort of one man crusade to prove you know best no matter how insane you sound
I dont have the problem. I think we could do with another (Pedro) but I see a pretty tasty attack in the making. I'm not one to get hysterical over 2 games either. I am not getting mixed up either. Ive called them goalscorers, because thats what they are. Calling every goalscorer a CF is a bit lazy and simplistic imo. Treble just likes to disagree. Doesnt matter what I say. Watch... @Treble - we play in Blue home kits
It's not just about scoring but overall play. Yes strikers (or cf's as u choose ) need to score goals, at least 20 a season, but the overall play is important. Looks like Rooney's not been making the correct runs lately, and he doesn't shoot much, how would he score? If he's unfit for too long then we definitely need someone else to replace him. Even the link up play that he's so good at is leaving him. He needs to make the runs even if he doesn't score, it would act as a decoy for other players to get into scoring position, just like benzema does for Madrid while Ronaldo gets the goals.
Disagree about what? I wasnt even talking to you. You're the one that came in and started spouting crap about Barca and Real
We have 2 CF on the bench. You (and van Gaal) seem to have missed this. A wide forward (that would be Pedro) is just as capable of adding goals depending on the set up. Our set up is likely to be kinder to players like Depay and Pedro than say, Benteke. I think pace would be just as welcome as a goalscorer though. Hopefully someone with both so
With Rooney he is being played into form. van Gaal knows the importance of a 20 goal a year striker. He mentioned it plenty of times last season (meltdowns were had of course) and even tried playing Falcao into some sort of form. With Rooney we know what we will get from him so I see why van Gaal plays him. From my match thread posts you should know I have been screaming for him to give Hernandez some game time just in case the worst happens with Wayne.
Rooney will come good. He will play 60 games, score loads, set up loads and we'll win the league, CL, FA Cup, Capital One Cup. We dont need to concern ourselves. Any discussion on said subject will be classed as ppl going into "hysterics" and "panic mode" at which point our resident knight in shining armour will turn up and put us all in our place. Now, let that be a lesson to you!!
I have no worries about the amount of goal scorers we have at the moment, my fear is that we are not set up to score goals in any quantity. I have sympathy with Rooney for leaving his position at present, the man wants to be involved in the game yet the way we are playing with safety first passing means the man up top may get to touch the ball every 15mins or so, we need to get forward faster and pose more consistent threat to the opposition goal. If the ball was in and around the opposition area more Rooney would stay there.
He said we need a CF. Something about having no chance challenging. I showed how hes wrong and said we dont need one as much as we just need a goalscorer. We will end up with Pedro, who is a WF. Hes certainly a goalscorer.
