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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    So what was 'the English Church' that the charter referred to?

    1534 is the year the Church got it's independence from the Church of Rome [RC] and was henceforth known as CoE - it existed for centuries before 1215 as well simply called 'the Church'.

    You don't think someone just came along in 1534 and said right we're having a Church and we'll call it CoE.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    sure so my point was CoE can't be specifically referred to as it stands now so in effect the rights of a different church were enshrined. I.e a roman catholic one
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    You'll have to take it up with the government. <laugh> The liberties of the 'English Church' are enjoyed by the CoE and no other.
     
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  4. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    And rightly so <whistle>

    @Page_Moss_Kopite

    @Hash

    :grin:
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The English nation is too traditionalist and lives in a time bubble, the world has moved on since medieval times but some traditions like royalty still receiving a living off the backs of others from the public purse and the astronomic price of sustaining the all the trimmings that go with royalty and its traditional duties should be backheeled and if they want it let them pay for it themselves.

    There have been and always will be people starving in the world but when a nation celebrating what was basically a peoples charter of its day while people in England are now queuing at food banks and or losing their homes its time to rethink the Constitution and modernise it to suit the majority not the favoured minority.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    <laugh> I wondered when you'd enter the debate, you old proddy dog <laugh>
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    He's been to chapel this morning and just got back.



    He's the local ****ing vicar.<whistle>
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It's ironic that the Magna Carta addressed very few people because the majority of people in medieval England were unfree peasants known as ‘villeins’ [modern day villains??]
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Don't speak about our clerics in those disparaging tones, you bomb-chucking twat <laugh>

    #sensingaderail <laugh>
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    <ok>

    Was it written in Latin?

    Even if not the vast majority of the people couldn't read or write and never had access to see it never mind read it.
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Nice little read jb.<ok>

    We better be careful what we say on the subject from now on though or a De Montfort fate might await us from Billy and rhc.

    "De Montfort ended up losing to the crown and having his testicles hung around his nose,"

    <yikes>
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    You're OK. I'm a scientist <laugh>
     
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  16. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Must have had some nose on him <laugh>
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Nah. Miniscule bollocks <laugh>
     
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  18. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    ...and I'm an artist :grin:
     
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    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Luvgonzo De Montfort? <whistle> There's a certain irony to losing to the crown and the punishment being losing your crown jewels eh <doh>

    #totalderail
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Very true.<whistle>
     
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