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As per you completely miss the simple point being made, you one eyed ****tard

 

Oppopable thumbs allow us to apply our intelligence better, but.. we'd have worked a way around that had we not got those thumbs, the development and evolution of the brain has **** all to do with thumbs you dope

No amount of saying "bullshit" or "cack" will change that fact you cretin.

I love your expertise, you spend a good majority of your life on the internet, no wonder you think you know everything better than the experts, from economics to biology, you know it all

 

Intellectual capacity of the human brain has nothing to do with opposable thumbs, and although we may have evolved civilisation differently without said thumbs, civilisation would have occurred very similar none the less, possibly to a point where we developed tools that work with hands that have no opposable thumbs, we are an ingenious species after all.

I wouldn't mind like, the actual whole point of the reply to RHC was that intelligence and primitive instincts are possibly a lethal combination, a good philosophical argument, and you go off on a thumbs Deltmown making emotionally driven comments and turn it into some stupid pissing contest as usual because you're a prick

I took you off ignore today, I see nothing has changed and wonder if you have been replying to me all this time, I bet you have

#ignoredagain

 

You know nothing about anything, you just google bollocks all day, you're a walking 'cut and paste', you empty headed tit

 

Let me guess, you're manically laughing again at your own posts?

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Read 'em and find out, same as you have with the others you cabbage.

 

Sup homey. I can't see your pretentious cack #ignored

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The new president of the Vatican Observatory Foundation, Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, has said that it is only a matter of time before alien life forms are discovered ....... Consolmagno was awarded the Carl Sagan Medal from the Division of Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society in November for his work in communicating planetary science to the general public.

Not looking for a religion debate here - haven't got Dave {RIP mate] to back me up. Just showing that religion doesn't stand outside of the life on other planets argument which some might not have expected.

 

Loved Sagan, the De Grasse Tysons out there these days pale in comparison.

Finding life is one thing, surely there must be life, finding intelligent life is another matter entirely which was the point of the debate between Sagan and Mayr

 

I wouldn't agree with that. It had a massive positive impact on factors we could utilise to engender increasing intelligence.

 

Like ****ing

 

...and punching each other in the grid.

Oh and ****ing walkng on 2 legs

He completely missed the point (as per)

 

It was the evolutionary path we embarked on, had we not evolved those thumbs are you saying categorically that our intelligence level would be less?

 

On the other hand, research shows that whales, who obviously don't have opposable thumbs, use most of their brain activity thinking about the complex social relationships with every other member of the pod.

Our inability to get along without killing each other and polluting the planet would be convincing evidence to the whales that we humans are terminally challenged in the intelligence department. After all, the crucially important intelligence is the intelligence that ensures long term survival. Humans as a species are clearly lacking even the most rudimentary common sense instincts for self-preservation !!

 

Good points, there are also many other semi intelligent species where they intelligence works hand in hand with their primitive instincts like eels, not intelligent and self aware enough to think "if I kill all the other eels I can have it all", it seems that the more self aware of the individual a being is, the more destructive the intelligence becomes when combined with the primitive competitiveness of biology. Take primates, they can kill each other because of this social system they have. Primitive instinct augmented with a sense of self and social order leads to this destructive path possibly?

 

But their supposed intelligence is worthless in terms of developing as a species, as they can't change or escape their environment and only still exist on the planet due to man choosing not to wipe them out. They became part of the food chain.

 

Powerful brains don't all work in the same way either. And there's the definition of 'intelligence' to consider. A whale won't be as intelligent as us but his brain may be as powerful.

 

Maybe but I was getting at the level of self awareness balanced with primitive instincts of competitiveness.

Take us humans, our genetically gifted competitiveness now translates to football tribalism, racism and even partisan politics where "our side must win".
This seems to the a theme throughout human civilisation, a mix of biological competitiveness and intelligence.

Whales I guess live in a different environment and exploitation is not a concept I'd imagine they'd understand. Us humans on the other hand understand exploitation well and use it to the maximum regardless of the power capacity of our brains.

 

Self awareness, that level of intelligence seems destructive when combined with primitive instincts, it also gave us moral ethics though, but those are entirely dependent on the amount of resources there are imo. As you reduce available resources you also reduce moral ethics and primitive survival instinct takes over rational thought.

Irrational thought and primitive instincts are exactly the affliction humans suffer today I reckon.

 

It's not like whales are competitive or beat each other to death fighting over females or fight each other in packs is it?

Oh wait.....................