Dick Advocaat made a great impression on many people in his short reign as head coach at SAFC...how do you all feel now that he has "gone"?? I am gutted,as I thought he would stay-on and re-build our team!! I can see things from his point of view,but I am gutted that he is gone!
Grandpops said it. It's now up to Ellis to inspire us in the next couple of weeks or so. Or not, if he ****s up!
I'm gutted. Advocaat did something remarkable here. It went further than a new manager pulling off another great escape. The biggest tell-tale eye-opener for me was that scene in the Arsenal press room where we saw a mature woman in a managerial position sniffing and giggling like a teenage girl with him. It wasn't just Coates and Graham - the whole club seemed to be 'in on it' from top to bottom. Everybody seems to have been pulling together in one direction - and enjoying the ride. My biggest worry is that this is going to be a very, very hard act to follow.
Not sure I agree with that mate. Seems to me Short can either take the advice of Congerton who has brought something new, or he can take the advice of the ****wits on the board who have brought MoN, Di Canio, and Poyet. How many failures does he want?
My thoughts exactly,The Relic,let's hope that our club's top-brass can bring-in the right man for the job!!
I think you're maybe being a bit unfair there, grandpops. MoN's biggest fan here was called Niall Quinn, who had tried to bring O'Neill in before and failed. But fair does, with his record, O'Neill could hardly be called a failure. True, he failed miserably here, but that's hindsight. Di Canio was too much of a shot in the dark admittedly, but he was brought in on di Fanti's advice and he's already gone. Poyet looked a good bet on the work he did at Brighton. I wasn't opposed to him at all. What we couldn't know in advance was his slavery to systems rather than getting the best out of the players we had. Not to mention his tendency to be a little dictator, even to people outside the playing departments. All these 'failures' haven't been as easy to foresee as you seem to make out there. But I agree, Congerton has brought something new and I think he's probably Ellis's 'star in ascendency'.
I understand what you`re saying. The point I was trying to make (probably not very well) is that Short has been given (and through no fault of his own) acted upon, crap advice. It seems to me that up to now the board has been clueless, imo Congerton has been the only one to have achieved anything positive. If we are to progress Short should take notice of that and shake up the boardroom. They`ve failed. It`s all business and no football. I know we can`t chuck money everywhere but they`ve gone to the other extreme. There`s no balance. I think that`s what I mean,
DA has gone but he has shown the way forward via an experienced head and a life of good solid work sprinkled with success. Whoever the new guy is it has to be someone of the same calibre.
I'm slightly disappointed because he was a likeable bloke, but far from gutted. You'd think we won every game in charge the way some are going on on here. He done great keeping us up and he improved us alot in his 9 games in charge yes, but not massively! I was disappointed in him not picking Watmore in the squad and abit perplexed after the Palace thrashing. I thought our tactics were wrong that day. We also had the Villa mauling aswell. Hes 68 now, so we would've still been looking for a new manager this time next year or the year after. Hopefully we can finally find somebody to come in and manage us long term, or at least 5 years!!
Very disappointed but the most important signing this Summer will be the manager. We simply have to get it right this time, and soon.
Poyet was manager against Villa, but I agree with your points. I would say we stopped up due to 50% Advocaat and 50% luck. If we hadn't getting more than the rub of the green against Everton we possibly/probably would have gone down. And that's not the only game which could have gone either way. However you feel that we generated our own luck by the increase in player motivation during Advocaats management.
I am sorry to see DA leave as he made a huge contribution by making a few deft changes to our style of play, using practically the same players who had relegation written all over them, yes it was close run, but it will be that way until the squad is improved. What worries me is the reason why he has turned us down,I hope it is not lack of ambition, we will find out shortly.
I agree with you. Dick got the results we needed but I don't think his achievements can just be measured in results. His influence was felt in every area of the club because it quickly became clear that, here's a guy who knows what he's doing. Knowing what you're doing and more importantly, getting everyone else to understand exactly what you want them to do, is so simple it's genius. We haven't seen anyone like that at Sunderland for a long time, an inspirational leader that everyone can rally around. We usually get some fruitcake who's ranting about the amount of sugar in a bottle of tommy K. Just a shame we didn't get Dick 3 years ago.
yep agree, shame we didn't get him 3 years ago. I'm not gutted he has gone but was hoping he would stay, obviously a man of his word as he said to his family he would retire at the end of the season.
