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A Tale of Two Cities

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  1. Hash.

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    Liverpool and Madrid

    Liverpool have gone 3 seasons with Brendan Rodgers in charge and will embark on a 4th "according to sky sources."

    In that time we have won nothing and finished 7th, 2nd and 6th.

    We got knocked out of the Champions league in the group stages.

    Madrid had Carlo Ancelotti for 2 seasons. In that time they finished 1st, 2nd.

    Won the champions league and reached the semi finals.

    They won the super cup and the world club cup.


    Ancelotti was today given his p45 , Rodgers it appears will be given funds to squander.

    I know there is no real comparison between Real Madrid and Liverpool at the minute but if we keep rewarding failure there never will be a comparison.

    Rant over.
     
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  2. jenners04

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    real have always been ruthless with managers down the years and it hasn't done them any harm, chelsea started a similar philosophy and eventually got rewarded in wining or buying the cl whichever way you look at it lol as well as titles and being a regualr in top 4 somehere.

    sometimes being ruthless helps, but then both teams are not exactly short of cash either so maybe easier for them than others.
     
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    Let's face it we're not exactly cash strapped ourselves. Kenny and Comolli spunked 150m and then Rodgers blew 220m that's 370min 4 years. Avg of 92m a season.

    I just think a proper manager would have won the league with that sort of money.
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Difference is, Madrid can get a new manager, give him £150m to build a new squad, get rid 2 years later and give the new manager £150m to build a new squad... etc etc... same as Chelsea.

    We on the other hand can't. Although we've spent money, we need a manager to develop players over a long period of time which will be our best chance to win something.
     
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    Add to my above post. We certainly wouldn't be going into the Summer with one striker who is decent in the 9/10 games he's fit for after spending that kind of money
     
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    True and like o said there really is no comparison but to be the best you need to copy the best not offer half arsed bids for marquee players and blow fortunes on up and comers
     
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  7. I'm not going to start banging on about net spend as I'm not a massive fan of that argument but... We've only had that sorry of money to spend because of the Torres and Suarez sales (£125m)
     
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    If you're copying the best then copy Barca not Madrid.

    Complete overhaul of the youth and somehow get English football to change grassroots football like they did in Spain/Germany then spend 10/15 years developing your youth team and promote from within so they play with each other and make all teams play 1 way throughout the whole club o matter wh the manager is...

    Then sign some 14 year old wonderkid and watch him become the best player the planet has ever seen.

    #simple
     
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    I know what your getting at but we still spent it. On utter ****e. That's down to the managers who got the money.
     
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  10. Agreed but the way you put it across is as though the next manager coming in will get the same deal. He won't unless he can unearth some gems to sell but then the question of why sell would arise.
     
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    Yeah because Suarez, Neymar, Alves, Mascherano were all the product of barcas youth set up
     
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    Because Sterling is a massive ****? <whistle>
     
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  13. If you have a quad full of homegrown talent then you can compliment them with the few mega signing you do make.

    Not a realistic option though.
     
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    No, but Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Busquetes, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, Fabregas all were <whistle>

    And once you become the best team in the world, you can afford to splash the cash on one superstar each year <ok>
     
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    Well if the owners (absent landlords) can't see that they need to give a new manager a fortune to bring the squad upto top 4 standard let alone winners, we might aswell stick with Brendan (as is rumoured) and us fans accept were not going to win anything for a long long time and they the owners accept the value of there asset is going south.
     
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    *Liverpool ended the season with 22 points fewer than 2013-14 (62 points compared to 84)

    *They scored 52 Premier League goals this season compared with 101 in the previous campaign

    *They lost 12 Premier League matches this season – double the total from the season before

    *They won five points from a possible 24 in matches against the top four clubs

    *Away from the Premier League, they failed to progress from a Champions League group that included Real Madrid, Basle and Ludogorets.



    Cheers Brendan!
     
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    I'm home an hour now after a 13 hour day at work today. I'm a little tired and cranky but this **** here, this **** here vvvvvvv


    Kolo Toure close to agreeing 12 month extension :mad:

    What the **** ? I despair I truly do.
     
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  18. There is one thing that stands out to me above all else from this season; playing a second string against Real Madrid.

    Sure, a lot of us thought it was a better team and the performance arguably backed that theory up too but with Brod reverting back to his regular side immediately afterwards it's clear to see he believed it was a weakened side.

    I moaned a bit at the time but was happy to give him the benefit of doing to see how it panned out; is would it see the players fresher in the second half of the season. We finished the season terribly (understatement) so it was not only a failure, it was an embarrassment on the club and it's history. For that, there can be no excuse!
     
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    If he does sign an extension that's Rodgers keeping his job then.
     
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  20. jenners04

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    so what you saying, nothing but his p45 is acceptable now lol
     
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