Off Topic Dark Matter and other Astronomy information.

Just as a by-the-by, did you ever see that interview when Ali G asked Buzz Aldrin whether man would one day walk on the sun?

 

"What happens if they went in winter, when the Sun is cold?"

 

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The Dark Matter Garden in preparation at the Chelsea Flower Show. Organised by the Liverpool John Moores University’s National Schools’ Observatory (NSO) and sponsored by the Science and Technology Facilities Council, who fund UK involvement in Dark Matter research as well as supporting the UK team at the Large Hadron Collider in CERN, the garden aims to excite and inspire everyone, but particularly schoolchildren, in the study of science through astronomy. http://www.gardenforum.co.uk/specia...een-stuff-that-makes-up-most-of-the-universe/

The garden contains a light source at one end - representing the deepest of deep space - from which rays burst in the form of steel rods. The rods bend as they pass over the greenery just as light would bend as it passes massive objects in the universe. {BBC]

What a great idea and a really good way of getting children excited by science.

 

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Anything that gets kids involved in science is great

Kids would be better serviced learning about the soil chemical make up and the biology tho

 

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Yeah well wtf do you know You are entitled ot your opinion.

Teach a kid about imaginary fictional bullshit dark matter or the chemical composition and processes of soil.

Which is more useful?

 

Hook, line and sinker

 

The physics. The nature of dark matter can still be solved. Soil is already understood and the problems are only ones of economics #boring

 

This garden has the potential for that as well. Kids can get biology, chemistry, physics, astrophysics, space, astronomy ...... from this one small plot. It's a great idea, innovative and forward thinking.

 

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Folks I merely have an issue with teaching kids fantasy, Dark Matter is fantasy.

It's akin to day outs for kids to learn about how the world is flat, before we discovered it was not. It's exactly the same.

Teaching pure theory as fact and said kids grow up thinking that Dark matter is real. In a way it's scientific propaganda

Even the Higgs Boson you so dearly love RHC is not "empirically" proven to exist, you have made that false claim more than once. The data is interpreted that way, that is not empirical evidence other than a new particle was found. Other than that it is entirely open to interpretation

 

dark matter is the name associated with the problem of accounting for the movement of astronomical objects on large scales. Every discussion of it admits the hypothetical nature. There is no propaganda and no one is indoctrinating kids.

 

Mate I understand your view. I don't have a stance on dark matter but this garden I think, if nothing else, has the potential to open children's minds to the 'possibility' - several possibilities actually. Exploring the unknown is what science is all about. Asking questions is a good and healthy thing for kids to do, for anyone to do - don't let's shut them off without a discussion or exchange of views. Let's present facts, theories and possibilities and let them decide for themselves.

 

I'll ****ing piss myself when they nail dark matter as well

#bookmarked

 

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kids love finding out about new stuff esp weird stuff and science is full of weird stuff, so we need to get them into science before they realise its uncool to be a nerd with a telescope.

As for several possibilities, not in sisu land there isn't, there is his view and anybody who disagrees has been brainwashed by Gru, SMERSH or whoever the latest super villain is.

 

I think the garden is a talking point for kids and adults so I'm all for it. As for Sisu, he's entitled to his viewpoint isn't he? There's nothing wrong in fighting your corner and much like astro on other threads, he gets personal abuse it seems for sticking to his view, the fact it may be an extreme view shouldn't open the door for abuse surely.

 

I was at the show today and there weren't many kids at all, under fives not allowed and not the kind of day when people want kids running around. So this garden wasn't teaching kids ****

Re sisu and teach the kids about soil instead: there was a stall set up all about soil composition and learning about it

 

I would never have a problem with somebody for having an alternative view, especially when it involves big business or governments. As it is I actually am inclined to go along with the ethos of some of his general arguments but tend to ask what some see as arkward questions as i genuinely try to look at issues with an unbiased a view as I possibly can (apart from LFC stuff, I don't even pretend neutrality then). It was when I pointed out the bias in his views that he went off on one of his rants and lied about me on here trying to portray me as dismissing racism and a holocaust denier.
Most importantly, unlike him I do not think I am some kind of great portrayer of almighty truth who dismisses all who disagree as brain dead zombies brainwashed into believing nonsense.
So to sum up, I generally do not mock the ideas he puts forward (maybe some) just the hypocrisy and doublethink of how he posts.