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Poll - Should Chris Ramsey be manager next season?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Tramore Ranger, May 6, 2015.

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Should Chris Ramsey be manager next season?

Poll closed May 9, 2015.
  1. Yes

    53.4%
  2. No

    46.6%
  1. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    If he was at Burnley and is fired at the end of the season would we want to hire him, I think not.
     
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  2. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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  3. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    Sorry -bit trigger happy. Yes from me. Read the debate - boils down to the usual battle between those who want to build a team and choose the players we need to buy (before we can begin to grow them ourselves) based on potential and value for money rather than past reputations as opposed to those who want to buy success with proven managers who have had a modicum of success in the past and players who will kiss the badge - even our badge if the price is right. Big Sam? Give me strength. You'll all whinge every time we're bored to tears. Paul Clement? if we were talking about his dad. Sure. However how does being No2 at a club that patented buying for success and which can afford to spend £30 million to fill a gap in its reserve team equip him to go shopping in the lower Leagues.? Does he even know where Shepherds Bush is? That leaves Warburton- a man who has done really well in League 1 one season and the Championship one season. Seems a decent bloke and has agreed to leave Brentford because he does not actually like the system his owners are imposing on him? Does anyone however actually know how much input he had into the buying and selling of players. Or is he another Pocettino who reaped the rewards of the seeds sown by various managers since Harold fell on his sword, has the good fortune of a prolific Harry Kane at his disposal but even so has failed miserably to improve them one iota?

    With Ramsey we know the players want to play for him. I believe he will improve given the time to do so.

    So what do you want? The quick solution aka massive-gamble-to- go- back -up-at-the- first-opportunity- however-much- it- costs or the easier punt where we concentrate on becoming profitable and living within our means and thereby grow some roots and restore some pride in our club? If you want the first option fine. At least that gives us the opportunity to go through this debate all over again next year. Twice at least. We can also buy a new team each year and relive those golden moments of Swords praising any ****e performance at any time as long as we get the result.
     
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  4. Rodney

    Rodney Well-Known Member

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    I haven't voted. I thought at the start of his reign I would give him until the end of the season. There are still 3 games to go.

    At the moment, I see pros and cons. I believed when he took the job that he had a reputation as a good coach but some on here now seem to dispute that. He is certainly positive, eloquent and seems to have got the players working harder, although without boosting the bottom line: points. There's the rub: his average points per game is even worse than Harry's. He has made some odd team selections and even odder tactical decisions. For example: he played 4 CB's and 3 DM's in a must win home game against West Ham, who were on a pretty dismal run of form and looking forward to their holidays at the end of the season. Against Liverpool at Anfield, I can't understand why he didn't at least start with 4-2-3-1, giving cover to our fragile back four and some pace out wide to support our lone striker.

    For me, he is like our team: in need of a bit of a miracle to survive.
     
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  5. Ranger4ever

    Ranger4ever Well-Known Member

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    I think we have little choice but to keep with Ramsey - I've voted Yes.

    Do we really need a "proven manager" to come and build a team? I believe Ramsey can do that, but I don't expect him to build a full team to compete for promotion until at least 2017/2018.

    I'm content with 2-3 years in mid Championship mediocrity whilst we rebuild using better methods.

    At least we'll see entertaining and exciting football at Loftus Road unlike what we witnessed under Redknapp.
     
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  6. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence of that whatsoever to date. Some would argue the opposite is the case. I have heard hoof ball mentioned more in the past 3 months than the past 3 years. Hoof ball with feck all results.
     
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  7. qprbeth

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    I am waiting till the end.
    I have seen the team change from a boring team with little or no hope of winning with little fight or ambition...to a team who have given everything.

    But he hasn't got the points....it is not even staying up but the points against West Ham and Palace that worry me...we should be closer to the fight than we are..we deserve to be.

    Counter to that.....TFs battle to get Arry to leave left us with a limited squad, numerically short....on some matches I think Ramsey has been near to not filling the bench...those youngsters were on the bench because no one else was available...

    He has been/inherited a bunch of injuries....a few stupid acts but a whole lot of really bad luck ...more than our fair share of bad ref decisions and lack of concentration and panic in the last 10 minutes have cost us dear.

    I wonder what he could do from the start with a calm level team..
     
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  8. Peter Damage

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    Some really strange comparison's in their with Pocettino. Which in Warbuton's case is completely unfounded.

    Warburton did put the side together. The reason he is leaving Brentford is because he wont work in the Spanish system they are implementing, where he becomes the coach and the players are imposed on him.

    Also don't understand what u are saying about player recruitment? Are you saying that under Ramsey we won't need to recruit players or that he will somehow sign only QPR fans? Why would the players Warburton signs be any more of a mercenary than the players Ramsey would sign.

    The only difference I can see is that CR might be daft enough to think our **** youth team can have a big influence on our season even though majority are average league one or two standard at best

    We need to sign players next year. Warburton has a good record of that. We need someone capable of building a side getting improvement and then even more than that improving the next year. Again same story... what right did Brentford have to get in the play offs this year compared to the struggles of Rotheram and Doncaster?

    CR is such a risk it's not worth it. He's inexperienced, unproven, unimpressive, already made mistakes and doesn't know the players or teams at that level anywhere close to as well as Warbuton

    With CR as manager i'd say mid-table at best next year and possible relegation

    Get Warbuton in later this month and i'd expect promotion no problem
     
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  9. BlindFaith

    BlindFaith Well-Known Member

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    Not done enough imo to justify being given the job so at the moment it's a no but would ultimately come down to what the other options are but I do think we really need someone who has experience of management & transfer dealings etc.
     
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  10. Hoop-Leif

    Hoop-Leif Well-Known Member

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    Keep him as coach but not manager
     
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  11. East Herts Rangers

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    Voted NO. The West Ham game was the tipping point.
     
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  12. Totallyqpr

    Totallyqpr Well-Known Member

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    Voted yes, but would take Paul Clement instead. He should be a part of the coaching staff whatever the outcome.
     
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  14. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    You know what, there's a really good candidate waiting in the wings. He's not that young but neither was Hoddle when a lot of guys wanted him to become Manager.

    Alan Curbishley. Yes he's been out of the game a long time but that was largely down to the legal situation with West Ham. He took up a London Club similar to ourselves without spending too much & kept them in mid table in the Prem for years. The moment they sacked him they sank like a stone.

    Allardyce probably ain't gonna happen so its The Curbs for me
     
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  15. Tramore Ranger

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    Actually Swords if you watched the Football League show the other week you would have seen Curbishley on there as guest analyst and it turns out he was director of football at Fulham in their relegation season and has been back there working as part of their backroom staff since March this year helping them to avoid relegation again........Hardly a ringing endorsement.
     
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  16. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    I know that mate but given the option to manage a team again, don't you think he'd take it? It'd be bye bye Fulham.

    The Fulham owner make a hash of their relegation season in the Prem. Curbs, Wilkins & someone else were drafted in to save the situation when they were already doomed. It was a ridiculous notion having 3 old timers acting as one Manager. Too many Chefs spoil the broth etc. It was the same this year. They got him back in in March when they were already in the sh*ts. Not Curbishley's fault. Anyway, I want him as Manager not DOF. We already have someone who doesn't know what he's doing for that role :wink:
     
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  17. Tramore Ranger

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    Fair do's.....

    The legal hassle he had with West Ham was settled in early 2010, so it is a tad strange that he was out of work for a further 4 years before taking on the Fulham role.......The other one that Fulham had was the madman from Germany Felix McGrath.......
     
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  18. Belfasthoop

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    God, what a difficult choice. The stats are not good. No getting away from that but a lot of results that could, and should have went our way. A few dodgy team selections too. To counter that, he's just in the job and did want to give everyone a clean slate, and see how they responded to his faith in them. I think he's learnt from those decisions.

    He seems to be a considered, intellegent and reflective man, well respected in the game generally. He has also got the total support of the dressing room, and they seem to want him to continue in the job. There are a lot of experienced players there backing him which is telling in itself.

    In Sir Les he has an ally in the boardroom, and a shared and agreed way forward. When I think of the madness of having P. Beard in charge of procurement, I wince.

    All in all, I voted yes. As someone else already said, I wouldn't mind a few seasons in the Championship if we were consolidating in squad and youth development, training ground issues and a new Stadium.
    Slower growth for me is required-no quick fixes.
     
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  19. Ranger4ever

    Ranger4ever Well-Known Member

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    Hoofball is only played due to the limited striking options, which is down to Redknapp not Ramsey. We could hardly expect OBZ to sprint past Premier League defenders, therefore if he's in the team, we'll play to his head in the hope of getting a knock down. We even had limited follow up options with Taarabt & Kranjcar not really up to it once Fer got injured.

    I'm no fan of hoofball but understand why it happens so often.
     
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  20. QPR Oslo

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    Spot On.
     
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