Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

it's Miliband Isn't that name Belgian\French?

 

I believe it's Marxist.

 

A name can be marxist?

 

From what I just read it appears to be German French. An amalgamation of Millecent Hildebrand.

#IwontPretendItsMyKnowledgeLikeSomeResidentBitterOftenDoes

 

Means "Son of an evil Commie-Jew who hated this country so much he enlisted in the navy to fight the Nazis" in Daily Mail speak, as opposed to Dacre's father, who was a conshie.

 

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John Major.

 

Now that you mention it, it does look like him

 

Nobel prize winning economist Paul Krugman on David Cameron's idiotic plans for further austerity. #theft #bankersgethtemoneytakenfromservices
http://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2015/apr/29/the-austerity-delusion

Of course citing such economists means "I" am wrong according to buffet experts who occasionally frequent this board cos they are experts in any subject they get involed in and therefor cannot be wrong

 

Election 2015 – live: Ashcroft poll shows Clegg to lose seat and Tories to beat Farage

• Ashcroft poll on marginal seats
• Ipsos Mori poll gives SNP 34-pt lead in Scotland
• Cameron does not challenge claim Tories would cut tax credits
• Balls says Tory tax credit cuts would hurt 4.5m families
• Read Andrew Sparrow’s summary of the morning
• Ed Miliband’s interview with Russell Brand - Verdict

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http://www.theguardian.com/politics...2bn-welfare-cuts-russell-brand-interview-live

 

wrong thread

 

Lib Dems rule out coalition with any party that refuses to raise tax-free threshold to £12,500

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Danny Alexander exposes 'secret' Tory plans for £8bn in welfare cuts
Exclusive: Lib Dem chief secretary accuses Tories of ‘trying to con the British people’ by concealing until after the election plans for major reforms to child benefits and child tax credits

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Alexander: ‘It’s clear from our time in government that the Tories target will be slashing support for families.’ Photograph: Christopher

Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat chief secretary to the Treasury, has taken the extraordinary step of lifting the lid on Tory plans for an £8bn plan to cut welfare, including slashing child benefits and child tax credits.
Alexander reveals that in June 2012, members of the Quad – the inner group of the four most senior cabinet members – were sent a paper by the work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith entitled “Welfare Reform Quad Summer Reading Pack” setting out plans for £8bn of welfare reforms.
The proposed cuts included:

• Limiting support to 2 children in child benefit and child tax credit, so cutting up to £3,500 from a family with three children.

• Removing the higher rate child benefit from the first child, an average cut of over £360 for every family with children.

• Means testing child benefit – cutting £1,750 for a two child middle income family

• Removing child benefit from 16 to 19 year olds – a cut of over £1,000 for parents of a single child.

The Conservatives have been under sustained pressure to detail how they will cut £12bn from the welfare budget by 2017-2018, and the Institute for Fiscal Studies thinktank confirmed this week the Tories have so far disclosed only 10% of these cut in the form of a two-year freeze in working age benefits.
“It’s clear from our time in government that the Tories target will be slashing support for families.
They now ask the British people to trust them when they make unfunded pledges on health and tax yet they won’t tell us how they will cut welfare for millions of families to pay for their plans. They may give with one hand but they will take away twice as much as with the other.”
A Liberal Democrat source added: “The measures set out in the document would have raised over £8bn – and shines a light on the scale of the cuts to working age welfare support the Tories will need to make to deliver on their cuts to welfare.
“Whilst the Tories refuse to make their cuts public it is clear they have already done the thinking If this is what they were capable of proposing in 2012, this is what they will be planning in 2015. It’s really important political leaders should be held to account on this in the last TV debate of the election. The public need the full picture to make the judgement.”
A Conservative spokesman said of the allegations by Alexander: “This is desperate stuff from Liberal Democrats who are now willing to say anything to try and get attention. We don’t recognise any of these proposals and to be absolutely clear, they are definitely not our policy.”
Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, Ed Miliband, the Labour leader and David Cameron are all due to appear on the BBC on Thursday in back to back 30 minute interviews. Clegg intends to put maximum pressure on Cameron to reveal his hand.
Alexander said: “For five years I won battle after battle to stop the Tories veering off to the right with ideological cuts and it has been worth it to keep the economy on track while ensuring a fairer society.”
Labour earlier in the day had been pressing Conservatives to admit that a mix of their deficit reduction plans, new spending commitments and ring fencing of some department budgets, including pensions, meant it was inevitable that the Tories would seek to cut tax credits and child benefit to meet its targets. Labour said as many as 65% of tax credit recipients were in work, and not on welfare as traditionally defined.
Michael Gove, the chief whip, went further than any Conservative in insisting the government would not go further than freezing tax credits: “We’re going to freeze them for two years, we are not going to cut them.” He also argued that the Conservatives’ track record in government showed they were capable of making the £12bn of savings in the welfare budget they have planned during the next parliament.”
“The past is the best guide to the future. Our track record is the best way in which we can be judge and the fact that we’ve been able to save £21bn in the welfare budget and at the same time reduce inequality and reduce child poverty in this country is an indication of our values and our competence.”

 

"And when I looked under the bed Tony Blair was there! "

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Was he playing hide and seek?.

 

#monsterunderthebed
obviously

 

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I thought Milliband came across really well in his interview with Brand but he's just had a real tough time of it on question time

A few of the audience really sparred with him. Lots of calling his comments ridiculous and not accepting his answers. He managed to pull it together more by the end but then did a little trip off the stage

Cameron came across surprisingly well.

Time for Clegg.

 

Miliband denied that geopolitics and the banskers do not have an inpact on the Uk political and social spheres, which is such a ginormous lie. Other than that he wasn't too bad, but lets be honest, he prepared for that discussion. Nothing was "off the cuff"

 

According to the pollsters Cameron came out on top of the QT special but in all honesty does anyone think that it will make the slightest bit of difference at this stage?