The Brendan Rodgers / Replacement thread

Dortmund's collapse shows the human side of football IMO... Bayern didn't just take their best players, they demoralised them.

 

Isn't it a manager's job to motivate them? relegation zone in the bundes is pretty ****ing depressed like

 

#fixed

btw haven't you done that already a few times?

 

It would be same project new project manager

 

It would help if you highlighted what you changed given that post was about 2 days ago and no idea what's different from te original post

 

Not hard is it stop being a lazy git and read it. Can you livpl fans read? Second one today ffs

 

That shows how the selective use of stats can be used to support any argument . The cost of the squad is used. On that basis Rodgers is not doing badly.

What about:

The change in ranking from last season?

Manager 1 takes team from 2nd to 5th
Manager 2 takes team from 7th to 3rd
Manager 3 takes team from 6th to 12th

Or % of expensive new recruits (say > £10m) who have become established in the first team or % of these players who are duds/ average or worse/ waste of money?

What about points obtained in matches between the top 7 teams?

No amount of stats can convince that Rodgers is "the best there is". My feeling is that klopp cannot do worse. As he is now a free agent, why not give him a go?

 

I guess he meant
Brod getting a lot of stick but he's at the same level as our wage structure
van Gaal hailed as #tacticalgenius for 3rd with the highest wage bill
Bitters giving it socks over Brod when they have Martinez(someone who a resident bitter boasted about getting "He turned us down so we got Brod") and the highlight of their season is us not winning anything

 

Part of the JD to become a mod

 

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I think Rudi Garcia would be a good option, if we were looking to change managers.

 

Van Gaal wasn`t with us last season

 

Of course, but it's more complex than underperforming = bad manager.

Pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong and it snowballed. Doesn't make the manager or players bad overnight. Shows how hard maintaining success actually is.

Fact is he's proven himself more than Brendan, has a greater appeal and even after this season would still need convincing to come here!

 

The context was "Motivation" not the total sum of management skill.

The Bundes is pure **** outside the top 4 teams. He had to **** up tactically too to end up so low.

Maybe he was #foundout

 

Bare in mind Dortmund are only 3 points off 5th and probably will finish there. So Europa league, hardly anymore disastrous than us.

 

Oh I mean in the context of motivating his players. I mean think about it - the existing side saw their biggest stars leave whilst new signings joined a poor version they didn't sign up for.. Klopp himself must've felt pretty powerless to replace quality with like quality. Add their injuries and a bad start and suddenly there's very few sides at all who could fully recover. Of course the players and probably the manager would've been in freefall. It's human.

I'm not saying he'd come here and be lazarus but he's hardly a bad motivator. What he did previous to this year is incredible. Look at their squad even when they were winning the league. He made them ten feet tall.

I get the Bundes point but it's not a 'terrible' league. Still better than Ligue 1 etc.

 

Oh I mean in the context of motivating his players. I mean think about it - the existing side saw their biggest stars leave whilst new signings joined a poor version they didn't sign up for.. Klopp himself must've felt pretty powerless to replace quality with like quality. Add their injuries and a bad start and suddenly there's very few sides at all who could fully recover. Of course the players and probably the manager would've been in freefall. It's human.

I'm not saying he'd come here and be lazarus but he's hardly a bad motivator. What he did previous to this year is incredible. Look at their squad even when they were winning the league. He made them ten feet tall.

I get the Bundes point but it's not a 'terrible' league. Still better than Ligue 1 etc.

 

It's Klopp's job to make sure free fall doesn't happen, plus if he is going to get the credit for winning as everyone has done so, then surely he has to take the credit for the failure
#worksbothways

As for the Bundes, it's pure ****e for the most part, it's almost like the SPL, almost Bayern Dortmund(before this year) Schalke, Leverkusen who take all the good players and Europe takes the rest.

How many German teams have won Europey.. a german also ran team has not won Europa \ UEFA since 96 and 97

Europey is a decent indicator of the quality of a league outside of the top teams in each league and that also busts the whole "Spanish league is **** outside of barca Real" as Spainish teams have dominated Europa, 6 wins since 03\04. Even then the English sides to win it were Liverpool and Chelsea, who are in that top bracket, no also ran English side has won Europey since 81.

 

Haha I'm not saying he's perfect. Obviously something went badly wrong.

Would still have him over Rodgers tomorrow.

Both are young and still learning... but Klopp has pedigree. And that is what we need.

 

Bundesliga is the 3rd best league in europe. Behind La Liga and the Prem. All three are significatly better than everything else.

Basically, ignore the lizard man.