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Southampton have most to fear from Dyke

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fran-MLs little camera, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    Clubs will end up getting more English youngsters into their first team. The price for our youngsters would get higher and higher for younger and younger players. In the end teams will see it makes more financial sense to build more English based academys themselves and stop taking ours. You only have to look at City.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Agree with both points Beefy but I wasn't really saying about avoiding FFP - The TV money is all fairly even anyway, but if we can use sales to turn bigger profits, it could even out our disadvantage in terms of commercial income to teams like West Ham / Villa / Newcastle etc. Currently all of these can pay bigger wages than us due to bigger fanbases etc. What I was saying is by getting inflated prices, we could potentially close that gap in terms of FFP - so we could have a similar wage bill.

    Again, not saying I think this is what's happening, just entertaining the thought, also apologise if I'm rushing replies as at work <ok>
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    That will ruin our business plan to use the Academy to supply our first team and raise money as a nice side line. :) We are market leaders...up to us to keep ahead. I doubt that all academies will be equal. I think Krueger mentioned that we could help other clubs set up academies as an income source...not sure if that's a goer.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Was he not on about clubs in different countries for that though? Might be wrong.
     
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    Beef Well-Known Member

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    FFP is getting challenged in court atm. So will see how it goes.
     
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  6. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    It will be interesting to see what happens with that... and if it is overturned to see how we will approach transfers and if any more "sugar daddies" will try n do a City.
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Yes, abroad. I suspect in some third world country for football...like the USA :)
     
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  8. Beef

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    I hope they change it a little. To make it fairer on the smaller clubs.
     
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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Hope so, like I said on another thread this morning, it's a nice idea in principle as it should stop teams doing a Leeds/Portsmouth, but all it does is maintain the status quo and under the current rules that will never change - the big clubs will always be the big clubs and no one has a chance of catching them.
     
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  10. Schad

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    Thus far we have gone in the opposite direction...our wage bill keeps getting smaller. We're so far away from any of the FFP limitations that it's hard to imagine them troubling us any time soon.

    As for commercial revenue, it's significant but not game-changing. Everton's 2013/14 books have them beating us by 3m in that department; West Ham by 10. The difference in merit payments last year wiped out more than half that gap.
     
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  11. OysterBoy

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    I'm no lawyer, but it's not obvious to me how Dyke's home grown player definition "a player must have trained in the UK for three years" fits with EU law on the freedom of movement of workers.

    Can you imagine going for a job in France or Ireland and even though you were the best candidate being told, "sorry, we only employ people who went to school here"?

    I'm sure the FA have some suitably-expensive lawyers who've ok'd it, but how did they wrangle it?

    Having said that, it makes the academy look like the best gold mine in the country.
     
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  12. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    There may be a difference between another job and playing football under FA rules....the FA is almost a private club. Employment laws will apply to other jobs within the football club, but not the team....otherwise you would have to employ disabled people and women in a job only suitable for fit men. (Before Pomps gets upset...I included women as unsuitable only because we are talking about men.s football here).
     
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  13. Jose Fonte baby

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    Cameron's EU renegotiation has started!
     
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