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Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

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  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    There's no lesser evil, have years of labour and tory not taught you all that.
     
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    Theres no one problem but encouraging people to do nothing with promise of reward always a bad idea. Going to war was one of the stupidest decisions ever. Hopefully Blair will face the music one day.
     
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    A fellow Chomsky-ite?
     
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    Opinions.
     
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    ROFL, that obvious? <laugh>
     
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    Of course... and by all means Labour are as you say 'awful' too.

    But what I can't stand about the Tories are the smiling faces as they lie... their policy on human rights, immigration and the EU are all half-hearted attempts to show hardline right-wingers that they're as 'British' as UKIP whilst their claims of building a 'Big Society' and a better Britain... for who? We all know who.

    Privatisation of services, land, healthcare, tax exemptions, no regulation of press ownership, calls to stop courts from halting British torture abroad... They well live up to their 'nasty party' tag. They couldn't give a **** about us. At least they don't make much effort to hide it.

    EDIT: And what's more, some of their pledges I've read are wrong - factually wrong. They present lies to the public on the fundamental issue of governance and society - the rights of the citizen. Would challenge anyone of a legal background to read their 'Protecting Human Rights' publication without seething at their attempt to mislead the public. We aren't stupid.
     
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    Easy to spot a fleckle of gold in a river of **** :)
     
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    It was not spupidity. That 1 trillion, much of it went from your pockets, actually, borrowed from the bankers behind the bank of England at interest, then given to the chummy contractors who do more than "lobby" for a war stance. Epic scam.

    #robbed

    Most western nations are now like someone who's borrowed money from a loan shark but can't pay it back so they borrow more so that they can cover the ever increasing interest.

    #nationaldebtwentup300000inthetimeittooktopostthis
     
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    <laugh>


    Chomsky's work is brilliant. <ok>

    He's probably the world's foremost intellectual, teaches at MIT for decades, great author, great political scientist, historian, and he's never on TV. Wonder why?<whistle>
     
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    #thatsnotasmile
     
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    Bit ridiculous... luckily was exposed to him at univeristy by a few professors.

    Did you see the ridiculous interview on newsnight last year? Literally took a minute or two when they had one of the world's great living thinkers.
     
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    You know why of course. Chomsky is very smart, given any amount of time he'd manage to elaborate on some stuff and they sure as **** don't want his thinking getting into the mainstream forum.

    They wouldn't for example ask him about the sanctions on Iraq the UK\US championed in the 90s that led to the deaths of between 600.000 and 1.000.000 iraqi children by blocking medicines and water treatment chemicals and so on. A proper ICC would deem that genocide as it meets legal criteria for that crime.
     
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    Chomsky is one clever guy, always wondered why not more mainstream cant just be because of the holocaust stuff.
     
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    True, but that's not the point I was making. Clearly preparing for a threat of today may not be the same as the threat of tomorrow.
     
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    He is, but Gore Vidal all was the daddy of free-thinkers, imho. Sad day when the waspy old queen passed away.
     
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    Another great thinker who again suffered many attacks from mainstream media esp later on in life.
     
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    Election 2015: Tories would cut inheritance tax

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    A Conservative government would end inheritance tax on family homes worth up to £1m, David Cameron is to announce.
    It means more owners of homes in the UK would be able to pass them on to their children without paying tax.
    The policy is likely to be at the centre of the Tory election manifesto, which will be launched next week.
    Labour said the Tories had promised such a move before the last election and did not deliver.
    Labour has been setting out plans to raise an extra £7.5bn a year through closing tax loopholes and imposing bigger fines on tax avoiders.
    The £1bn cost of the Conservative policy will be paid for by reducing tax relief on the pension contributions of people earning more than £150,000, says the party.
    'Natural instinct'
    At present, inheritance tax is payable at 40% on the value of an estate in excess of the tax-free allowance of £325,000 per person. Married couples and civil partners can pass the allowance on to each other.
    If the Conservatives win the general election 7 May, parents will each be offered a further £175,000 allowance to enable them to pass property on to children tax-free after their death.
    The new "family home allowance" will be transferable on the death of one spouse and can be added to the existing £325,000 transferable allowance to bring the tax-free total up to £1m.
    The full amount would be transferable even if one member of a married couple has died before the policy comes into effect, the Conservatives say, and so would benefit existing widows and widowers.
    For properties worth more than £2m, the new allowance would be gradually reduced, so that those with homes worth more than £2.35m would not benefit at all.
    The new allowance would come into effect in April 2017 and be available to married couples and civil partners, even if one of them has died before that date.
    In a speech on Sunday, Mr Cameron will say: "That wish to pass something on is about the most basic, human and natural instinct there is. And that's why for a long, long time I have wanted to act on inheritance.
    "We've already done some important things. With the Conservatives, people can pass on their ISAs - and they'll be able to pass on their pension pot tax-free.
    "And I can tell you today that the next Conservative government would go much further. We will take the family home out of inheritance tax.
    "That home that you have worked and saved for belongs to you and your family.
    "You should be able to pass it onto your children. And with the Conservatives, the tax man will not get his hands on it."
    'Wrong priorities'
    Chancellor George Osborne told the Mail on Sunday that people who wanted to pass on their family home should be "supported" and not "penalised".
    But shadow treasury secretary Chris Leslie, for Labour, said the policy was the latest "panicky promise" from the Conservatives.
    He said: "The Tories made a promise on inheritance tax before the last election and they broke it.
    "At a time when our NHS is in crisis and most working people are paying more under the Tories, it cannot be a priority to spend £1bn on a policy which the Treasury says would not apply to 90% of estates."
    Liberal Democrat Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander said the Conservatives had "the wrong priorities".
    He added: "It is extraordinary that the Tories will go into great detail on a policy that will cut tax for a small number of estates, but steadfastly refuse to give any detail at all on the massive cuts to public services that they desire.
    "To make this promise with such a huge black hole at the heart of their plans is a sign of desperation from a Tory Party that knows it can't win the election."
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    On the issue of a nuclear deterent, I thought Andrew Neil's questioning of the SNPs position of getting rid of our nuclear weapons whilst maintaining NATO membership is of great relevance.



    Essentially it's a valid point that remaining as part of NATO that provides a nuclear defensive umbrella is a hypocritical stance if you advocate losing our own nuclear deterent. So do those who want to get rid of our nuclear weapons also believe that we should pull out of NATO?
     
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