How many goals have we scored from corners?

I dug up a stat from the end of 2013 that said we had failed to score from a corner 375 times over ther previous 2 years, the last one being Demba Ba in 2011 against Wolves. Anyone know what the current stat is? Have we scored from a corner since then?? I believe we are the worst team in the league from dead ball situations. Another wonderful stat to be proud of..

 

I might be wrong, but I am sure we have added just one, Steven Taylor, cant tell you the match.

 

I think this is right.
We have probably scored the least amount of goals from corners in all divisions which again falls down to coaching in my book.
The Cardew dynasty has a lot to answer for.
Anyone doubting the impact of coaching need look no further than the Gullit Departure / SBR arrival. Shearer was firing blanks and being played out of position... we were getting beat...... SBR came in and with the same squad beat Wednesday 8-0 in his first game and Shearer got 5..... all SBR did was play to Shearer's strengths.... something all the fans had been saying for a while.

 

Not sure but one thing I do know we haven't had a proper set piece taker or players who attack dead balls in that time. Carroll was the last we had at this club and Nolan knew how to pick up scraps in front of the keeper. Even Barton and Guthries dead balls were nothing to shout about.

The big difference is having people like Speed, Shearer, Dabizas attacking them and the likes of Robert and Solano whipping them in. Obviously there is a coaching side to it, you only have to look at Pulis. Again though he relied on Huth, Shawcross, Jones, Fuller, Walters for aggression, with Etherington whipping them in. You'd then get Adams and Crouch.

I do think the corner coaching is overplayed by people desperate to have a dig to be honest. Its more our transfer policy than our coaching. We have had no dead ball experts. The best of the recent seasons has probably been HBA and Cabaye. Their free kicks were ok, but their corners were shocking. I can't remember anyone since Carroll who attacked the ball with gusto (save Saylor who is never fit).

 

Hold it everybody, hold it. You're not allowed to score from corners and that is the reason why!!! Clearly any goals allowed from corners have been down to poor refereeing.

Don't you think with the top class coaching team in place that if you were we would have done something about it.

 

It's a bit of both, I think. Pardew said we had no ball delivery after Cabs, but by the same token we went years WITH Cabaye and didn't score. There's never been any innovation in what we do, I find. Our squad is tiny and we have two CB's good in the air. If you put a training session together, I'd imagine it's easy for Willo/Saylor to win a header given the size of the rest of the squad. However, when your tactic is "aim for Willo" and you're up against Stoke.....epic fail.

I personally feel our coaching is about being pals and mates. I'd love to get to a training session at NUFC and compare it to, say, Chelsea. Forget the ability of players, I wonder how professional we are. I mean, Carver's the least professional manager/coach in the entire football league, I struggle to believe we're going to be drilled like an army platoon on the training ground. He's openly admitted that he can't work out how we play well in training, then disappear in matches. Kind of sums it up - if you can't work that out, you're in the wrong job, that's the whole fcking point.

 

Defo is part coaching. Look at the drills the likes of Chelsea and Pulis teams run in terms of blockers etc to distract and bend the rules. However the most important aspect to me is undoubtedly having players to put good balls in, and players who attack the ball. You can coach that to a certain extent too of course but you can either whip a quality ball in or you can't. You have that attack mentality or you don't.

Bobby was a coach who knew the value of dead balls, even if you ignore his Newcastle spell, look at England or Barca. He had big guys who attacked the ball and he had players who put genuine quality on it. Coaching is easy when you have the players because good players don't need overly coached in how to play football, they just need taught systems.

I guarantee you give Pardew or Carver Robert, Solano, Shearer and Speed that they score goals from dead balls. They win games because of it too because in tight games you go ahead and it gets confidence up or makes the other side take risks. I don't know how meticulous Pardew or Carver are. By all accounts we do very detailed work under both. I haven't watched a training session so I don't know. I do on a Saturday, we looked well drilled the majority of the time under Pardew (not on corners I have to say), but not at all under Carver. We look confused and unorganised.

I just can't understand why we don't have a player of requisite quality in both dead balls and general play? A centre back who attacks the ball and scores goals as a result. Actually just a centre back of PL standard would be canny.

If people have any doubt, check out Palace since Pardew went there and has the likes of Dann, Murray, Puncheon etc. Renowned aggressive players, they are scoring regularly from corners and dead balls. I think I watched a game against West Ham when everything they got was from dead balls! That's against Sam Allardyce the supposed master of the dead ball. It isn't rocket science, and it unfortunately comes back to how you build your side. We build ours to make money, others build theirs to get a good mix and win.

 

I think we have only scored once from a corner this season, Rolando Aarons Vs Palace at home.

 

As rare as they are, they should stick firmly in minds.

Remy v Norwich 13/14
Gouffran v WBA 13/14

 

The problem probably lies in a two-fold situation. Of course, luck aside, as luck is also a very important factor. Firstly would be the delivery, Cabaye was inconsistent at best with his corners, best corner takers we ever had would be Solano and Robert. Next, would be the lack of talented headers of the ball. The two best headers I could remember off the top of my head would be Big Al(well, of course) and the late Gary Speed. They could really direct their headers to where they would want the ball to go to , and win the aerial battle to do so. Now, Williamson? You kidding me, Willo can't head for nuts. He's just a lanky lad who can get his head TO the ball, but that's it. No direction, no power whatsoever. Our squad probably only has 2 real good headers of the ball right now, being Colo (too little of an aerial presence to win anything), and Saylor (remind me when he leaves the treatment table), but they cannot contribute. And then add to that, us running that epic failure of a setpiece to Willo for 2 years and 6 days to no result, how do we expect to score any goals?

 

I scored on a corner in Newcastle a long time ago

 

fredor, you never gave me change from that ten shilling note.