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The Ballon D'or

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  1. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Why are we putting Ronaldo into the John Terry, Suarez, Rooney, Cole and Giggs category?

    What has Ronaldo really done other than be cocky? I actually admire his cockiness, as he backs it up on the field.

    And let's be honest people, if you looked and could play football like him you'd be cocky aswell. It's hard not to be.

    Ronaldo is a role model to all young professionals, he had the talent, but he's dedicated his life to becoming the very best he could possibly be. Very few footballers get to the top and then keep striving to be better. Even as great as he is he works harder than any other player at every club he's been to, and those who have played with him will tell you this. He is the first in, and last out at training every day. He spends hours in the gym trying to improve his physical attributes to. His frightening pace, and his ability to jump so high are largely down to all the hours working out.

    He is also very generous to charity's. He helped raise fortunes, for Aceh after the 2004 Tsunami. He has also given a lot of money to hospitals in Madheira.

    He also gives money away to people in need. He has paid for the cancer treatment of many young children. One of those the Mum wrote a letter to Ronaldo asking for him to donate a signed shirt, so they could auction to pay for treatment. But Ronaldo was having none of that and paid for the treatment himself. Hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of treatment. The boy still has treatment to this day, to keep him alive and Ronaldo is still paying for it. He even styled his hair in a zig zag pattern honour the young lad, as he had similar scars after one of his operations.

    He doesn't have any tattoos, like most modern day footballers, and this is because he regularly gives blood, and having tattoos can effect your blood for up to a year. He doesn't have to do that, he just does it because he genuine good guy, who likes to help others.

    He is also associated with countless other charity's that he donates to. There are to many to name.

    So please do not put him in a category with the likes of John Terry, Suarez and Giggs, as he's never done anything like they have.

    If only a few more footballers had Ronaldo's generous nature :biggrin:
     
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    The faux outrage coupled with the usual "he's a bad role model, he's leading my kids astray" BS.

    No, you are a bad role model because you are a **** parent. If a footballer is having more of an influence on your child's life than you are then you have made some very poor parenting, and life, decisions. **** off and take them to the park or the swimming pool or anywhere other than in front of the TV / XBox / iPad.

    ****s.
     
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    This.
     
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    5 more Ronaldgoals today.
     
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  5. Treble

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    If a 21 year old played every one of Ronaldo's career goals from start to finish, it will take him until his 52nd birthday to finish watching all of them*







    *this may be factually incorrect but posted for effect at the man's awesomeness
     
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  6. King Shergar

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    Ronaldo is back infront of Messi, in the scoring charts after 5 goals in a game, so the doubters can return back to their drawing boards. As they say form is temporary, class is permanent.

    Even though Ronaldo should already be infront on the Ballon Do'r count, as he out scored Messi on a year that Messi won it. It won't be long until it is 4-4.

    Another CL winning contribution should seal the deal for Ronaldo :biggrin:
     
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  7. Viva_Giggsy

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    I don't get how people think Messi is better then Ronaldo. probably because he used to play for United.
     
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  8. Bodinki

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    People think Messi is better than Ronaldo because Ronaldo used to play for United?!
    How would that make Messi better? Or did I just completely misunderstand what you said?
     
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  9. Chief

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    If you take it as it was actually written then people think Messi is better than Ronaldo because Messi used to play for United.

    Which is nonsense because he hasn't played for United. Obviously.
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    <laugh>
    I did read it that way at first

    Either way, I still don't understand how Ronaldo playing for United would make Messi a better player?
    I think he is better because he is better imo, but its subjective with those two, not much in it
     
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    Because it's an ABU conspiracy of course.

    For the record, for what it's worth, I think Messi is an aesthetically more pleasing footballer than Ronaldo with marginally finer technical ability.
    Ronaldo is a more efficient all round beast of a player.

    It's subjective as to who is the 'best', completely one persons personal opinion over another's.

    Both great players, both are in the top five ever comfortably.
     
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  12. Bodinki

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    Deffo.
    Their scoring records in La Liga are ridiculous, they are certainly the worlds two best players.
    I will say though, its not as difficult to score hatfuls when, outside of the top 4, the rest of the league is League One quality.
     
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    League 1 <laugh> Ah come on that's a cop out. This myth about La Liga being a poor league seems to be a popular soundbite on Not606 bcos most obviously never watch it and this bollox seems to make them feel better about not doing so.

    Ronaldo and Messi might make spanish teams look like league 1 outfits but they'd probably do the same to half the teams in the PL. The reality is that the depth in quality in La Liga has been consistently better than the PL for over 2 decades.
     
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  14. Bodinki

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    Don't make me pull out the stats.
    I had to serve up Sisu earlier today for trying to debunk the "myth".
    La Liga is horseshit in terms of quality outside El Classico and the occasional cameo from Athletico.

    Its Far less competitive than the PL
     
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    Pull out the stats? Really? Ever tried watching it.

    Btw while you're pulling out those stats look at the variety of spanish clubs in the CL over say the last 12 years. Then look at how many have got to the last 8 of the Uefa Cup or Europa League over say the last 10 years.
     
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  16. Diego

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    I think the quality of players is better spread throughout La Liga but the competetiveness of the teams is not as high once outside the top four.
     
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  17. Bodinki

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    I am talking about La Liga, not sure why you mention the CL?
    Are the best teams in Spain better than the best teams in England? At the moment, yes, for sure.
    But the rest of the league?

    Its like watching the SPL. I have seen plenty of La Liga mate.
    The level of domination by El Classico is ridiculous. Not a competitive league = **** competition
     
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  18. Treble

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    Bcos if you look at the rotation of spanish clubs entering the CL compared to the PL it's one way of demonstrating why there is greater depth in their league.

    The same applies to the UEFA Cup/ Europa League plus historically their teams have gone further in the comp in numbers.

    I accept the monopoly of RM and Barca and lesser extent AM means currently no other team gets a look in for the title. But teams in la liga take qualification for CL and Europa a lot more seriously. Watch la liga games and you'll see it's competitive.

    I'm dumbfounded that you think the technical ability or style of football of spanish teams is in any way shape or form in the same ball park as the one dimensional physical nature of the SPL.
     
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  19. Treble

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    I dont know Diego. I look at the last 10-12 years and I see a continuous changing of teams who qualify for european football. These are teams around midtable and above. I watch them balance league form with EL commitments and make QF, SF and finals. Even in the league you see real rivalries, lots of regional battles and plenty of good football.
     
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    Spain more CL success and more EL success. Basically their top sides are better than PL top sides and their mid table sides are much better than PL mid table sides. Essentially, Spanish football is better than British football and most players in Spain's top flight are spanish too, where in the PL only 30 odd % are British players

    The difference is, the La Liga doesn't have the cash spread evenly, so unlike the pl that has two or three top sides then a second tier and then mid table, La Liga has a top three and everyone else is cash strapped. That is why people think the PL is more competitive in places 3rd to 6th because the Liverpools Spurs have more money than the Sevilla's and Bilbao's and Valencia's in Spain.
     
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