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Off Topic French plane crash

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Tobes

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    You'd like to think that a man put in charge of a passenger airline would have enough about him to inform his employers that he was unift for work (for whatever reason). It's not A GP's responsibility to ensure that an employer is aware of their employees health issues, an neither should it be, as 1 case of a lunatic like this, shouldn't have a whole raft of kneejerk "catering for the 1 ****ing idiot in a million" type legislation brought in off the back of it.
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

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    Entitled to your own opinion but when I get on a plane I want to know if the airline know if he's fit to work or not.
     
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  3. Tobes

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    This bloke passed a work medical assessment a few weeks before this incident I think.

    There's a grave danger that people are going to confuse depression with what this man has done - mass murder. There'll be plenty of pilots out there who have or still do suffer from some form of depression or anxiety, but that doesn't mean that they're suicidal and more importantly suicidal mass murderers.
     
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    I'm not confusing anything. I'm wondering how it can be right that someone can be declared unfit for work by a doctor and then nobody else is informed as he jumps behind the wheel of a massive ****ing plane?
     
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  5. PattyNchips2

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    Depression is a mental illness.
    The only way around it is to have psychological evaluations on pilots, there are more than enough pilots to cover those that fail psychological tests.
    When you are depressed, you do things that you would not naturally do.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    They do that already, and this guy had passed them.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    He could have been sniffing beak off a stewardess's tits the night before and you wouldn't know either.

    It's called personal responsibiltiy.
     
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    if a pilot wants to take a plane down, in reality there is little anyone can do.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Giggitty
     
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    Exactly. Fortunately there are very few selfish ****tards like this **** on the planet.
     
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  11. PattyNchips2

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    he should have parachuted out, see if he could survive.
     
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  12. captain caveman

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    That is an incredibly ignorant post, you clearly have no knowledge of mental illness at all. This guy was ill, he needed help. I would guess (because I don't know the facts) that the rest of the people on the plane never crossed his mind. The acts of a person with mental illness appear to be perfectly rational to them, but not to anyone else. I fear that this will undo all the good work in raising awareness of mental health and further stigmatise those who suffer.
    The more stigma attached to mental illness, the less likely those suffering will come forward to get the help they need.
     
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    Firstly **** off with the attempted patronising tone and I have first hand experience of mental illness you assumptive ****

    The guy made a conscious decision to take down an aircraft in order to kill himself - knowing that he was going to end the lives of 149 others. To say that thought would have never crossed his mind is utter bollocks.
     
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  14. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I wish all the people who keep claiming others have no idea of mental health would put their qualifications on the table
     
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    I have some idea about how debilitating depression can be, I know that people do things that are irrational and yet seem perfectly normal to them - But apart from that, not many people can talk first hand about it, either they haven't survived or they are in a mental ward somewhere.
     
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    Top post.

    The problem is people don't get it. They think rationally about irrational illness.
     
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    I have good friend who made a HALO into the Falklands 2 weeks before our landings; it would be his piss that would boil if he read some of the **** on here. <laugh>
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    I'll start.

    I'm a bit bonkers me. :emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  19. captain caveman

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    My qualifications to talk about mental illness are worn. Would you like to see my wrists?
    I am able to talk freely about it, without shame, because the level of awareness has increased and the stigma attached has decreased.
    Someone like tobes, who say they have experience of it, I have no reason to doubt you, yet display little sympathy or understanding of someones thought processes before they did a truly terrible thing.
    In my opinion, attitudes like his will set us back ten years.
     
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    Think you might be onto something there Pat.
     
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