Sunderland fans storming the bench...

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Polly13

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As a fan, you'd be pissed off with that first half showing, but the way some of them carried on this afternoon was an embarrassing disgrace.
 
They're just a bunch of knobs, actively supporting a *****phile, he maybe innocent until proven guilty, but chanting "He shags who wants" was disgusting, I hope they go down, it'll be a reality check they deserve, a club is never too big to go down.
 
I saw this from the 'Secret Footballer'.

Never start an article with “I told you so”. At least that’s what “The Guardian” said to me when I first started writing “The Secret Footballer” columns for the paper.

Eighteen months ago, I wrote an article about Sunderland in which I said: “There are problems at Sunderland – big problems. They have too many players who do not have enough respect for the game. It is no secret in football circles that there is a drinking culture at Sunderland that extends right through the core of the team.”

I was hammered by Sunderland fans for that article but it’s absolutely true. To this day, I still get weekly pictures of the Sunderland players out and about on the piss. And I also get the stories that go with those pictures.

Adam Johnson, the England and Sunderland winger, was arrested on Monday on suspicion of sexual activity with a girl under 16. He was immediately suspended by his club.

I rang a friend who used to play with Johnson and the first thing he said to me, before he’d even said “hello”, was: “It was only a matter of time, wasn’t it?” He didn’t say that in relation to the accusation that Johnson had had sexual activity with an underage girl, he said it because we both know that the players at Sunderland are renowned in the game for their nocturnal activities.

Regardless of whether or not the Johnson allegation turns out be true, the frequency of the nights out on Wearside from certain Sunderland players was always going to snag one of them.

“They were out again at the weekend,” my friend said. “At the end of the night, they took birds back to ******’s house but he’d gone back first so was in the middle of it with his one. The others had to go a hotel.”

It happens most weekends, with a little hardcore group of players that are occasionally joined by other members of the squad.

But the allegation against Johnson is just that at this stage, an allegation. It is also worth pointing out that the 15-year-old girl in question was said to be boasting about their alleged “relationship” to her friends and on social media.

The defence of Johnson, 27, by the mother of his girlfriend, Stacey Flounders, has been robust. “They are still very close and are absolutely still together,” she said. “He is 100 per cent innocent and we will stand by him. He hasn’t been found guilty of anything. He is a great lad and has not done anything wrong. This is a horrible situation.”

Over the years, I have seen a lot of this sort of thing squashed in the womb, if that’s the turn of phrase I’m after. There have been accusations against players at every club that I’ve played; sometimes they’re true but very often they’re complete and utter bullshit.

There have been accusations against players at every club that I’ve played

For Johnson’s sake and everybody involved, I hope this falls into the latter category. I hope this is a girl who has made up a story up for attention; I hope that a claim reported by the media that Johnson had posed in pictures with the girl, if true, served as the starting point for her to fabricate a relationship.
That’s what I hope. But that may not be the truth of it. However, at this stage of an ongoing police investigation, nobody really knows for sure.

On Friday, my friend called again and, this time, he picked up the conversation with the air of a man who has seen everything in football and, as a result, would not be in the least bit surprised if this allegation turned out to be true.

“Mate,” he began, “I just heard from a mate who’s spoken to his missus. Apparently, he’s retreated to a dark place, not talking to anyone. Listen, I don’t think he’s ever gonna play football again.”

I pressed him a little and asked what had been said that made him so sure, pointing out that the family were being publicly supportive. “Yeah, they were,” he said, “but that was on Monday. It’s Friday today. I asked my mate what the latest is and he just said: ‘he’s f*****’.”

The amount of negative stories that I hear coming out of Sunderland always outweighs anything coming out of almost any other Premier League club. Sometimes they make the Press, in a lot of cases they don’t. Something seems to happen to players when they move to the Stadium of Light.

In the meantime, all we can do is wait for the outcome of the Johnson investigation and the inevitability of another negative headline to come out of Sunderland AFC concerning another of their players. Unless, of course, this most unsavoury of incidents can serve as a wake-up call to the squad. I won’t hold my breath.

Not that there is any sympathy from those involved in football when these stories come along. In fact, quite the opposite, which most of the time is a bit rich to be honest. We’re not all saints, and we’re definitely a target in certain quarters, but we’re also capable of doing some bloody stupid things at times

We’re also capable of doing some bloody stupid things at times

“Mate, you know they found a loaded gun in his [Johnson's] house, don’t ya?” my friend said. “Cops took it away, though, and all his cars for forensics. Poor f***** can’t even shoot himself.” At which point, he burst out laughing.

It would appear that the “loaded gun” was, in fact, a blank firing pistol that does not require a licence to own … but still.

Welcome to the dark, dark humour of English football, where nothing, it seems, is off limits.


Read more at http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...hnson-and-sunderland-afc/#HmmFhhHdDE5rqYr7.99
 
I know we’re talking about football supporters here, but they come across as hyper emotional and seem to lurch from the one embarrassment to the next.

The next manager they get in will be the messiah (again): the bee’s knees/ can’t put a foot wrong/the bestest/greatest – ‘I’m in tears as I type these superlatives*’.

Within 18 months, whoever he is, he’ll be the scum of the earth.

Bluntly the cycle is:

Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking -…

* I did actually read someone about a year ago on RTG claiming to be ‘in tears as he typed’ his love for Poyet
 
I know we’re talking about football supporters here, but they come across as hyper emotional and seem to lurch from the one embarrassment to the next.

The next manager they get in will be the messiah (again): the bee’s knees/ can’t put a foot wrong/the bestest/greatest – ‘I’m in tears as I type these superlatives*’.

Within 18 months, whoever he is, he’ll be the scum of the earth.

Bluntly the cycle is:

Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking -…

* I did actually read someone about a year ago on RTG claiming to be ‘in tears as he typed’ his love for Poyet
Excellent summary there LTT.

I've gone from wanting them to stay up due to some mates supporting them, to really hoping they go down.

Obviously they're still the type of fans we should be aspiring to emulate though. Proper fans up there. Oh yeah.
 
I know we’re talking about football supporters here, but they come across as hyper emotional and seem to lurch from the one embarrassment to the next.

The next manager they get in will be the messiah (again): the bee’s knees/ can’t put a foot wrong/the bestest/greatest – ‘I’m in tears as I type these superlatives*’.

Within 18 months, whoever he is, he’ll be the scum of the earth.

Bluntly the cycle is:

Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking - Appointment - messiah – beat Newcastle – drip drip realisation of actual mediocrity – sheer hatred – Sacking -…

* I did actually read someone about a year ago on RTG claiming to be ‘in tears as he typed’ his love for Poyet


This ^^^^^ <applause>
 
Excellent summary there LTT.

I've gone from wanting them to stay up due to some mates supporting them, to really hoping they go down.

Obviously they're still the type of fans we should be aspiring to emulate though. Proper fans up there. Oh yeah.


I’ve had a few Sunlan supporting mates over the years and in truth, they’ve all been a bit mental but great laughs with it and all in all, sound.

With regard to the team: Sunlan should have been relegated last season.

Naturally, I really don’t mind who goes down as long as it preserves us, but if I had to call it, I think they’ll scrape it and stay up and in reality, I see it as simply between us and Burnley for the third spot.
 
There's deluded ****ers with every club. We had a mass exodus against Newcastle. If Brucey hadnt turned it round it would have gotten like that here too. Fickle ****ers everywhere.
I like Sunderland, great people on the whole, hope they stay up. But not at our expense.
 
A few seasons in the Championship would do Sunderland good. I wouldn't like to see them bounce back up after just one season. Let them see that they don't have a God given right to mix with the Uniteds, Arsenals, Chelseas and (dare I say it) Hulls of the football elite.
 
I worked in Sunlun in the mid-60's and remember my first visit to Roker Park. I couldn't believe the passion of the fans as compared to ours (and we had the 'Waggy Era' team at the time).
I worked for a Gents Tailors (March the Tailor) as the Display Manager for the North East. Sunlun wasn't a successful branch taking a mere 3-400 quid a week and the Ladies Department was taking over a thousand every week. The bosses were concerned and sent me up there to see if I could do anything. It didn't take me long to realize that our Company designed window backing was in Black and White stripes - the colours of the hated Newcastle United. I redesigned the windows in Red and White panels of Velvet, borrowed some Sunlun Scarves from the local sports suppliers and slung them over the dummies in the window. I got a call from the boss on the Monday morning in Hull telling me that they had taken a staggering 2 and a half thousand - and I got an unbelievable 5 quid a week rise.
Their football team wasn't just a team, it was their lives. The pubs were silent if they got beat and incredibly boisterous when they won. I saw the great Scottish international Jim Baxter (and drank with him in the early hours) as well as Brian Clough in his come-back game and the greatest Centre Half I ever saw in Charlie Hurley.
To me it is sad to see Sunlun so poorly managed when they have such magnificent support but they will come back.
 
What does the person do who throws his pass in anger? Do they wake up in morning and ask for it back? <laugh>
 
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To me it is sad to see Sunlun so poorly managed when they have such magnificent support but they will come back.

The club must have been poorly managed since 1973. When's this comeback gonna happen?

The 40k supporters may look good on paper but when they're only doing half a game each it's equivalent to 20k part-time supporters over the whole game.
 
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A few seasons in the Championship would do Sunderland good. I wouldn't like to see them bounce back up after just one season. Let them see that they don't have a God given right to mix with the Uniteds, Arsenals, Chelseas and (dare I say it) Hulls of the football elite.

With their stadium and crowds, and the size of their away following which has to travel further than virtually every other club, the PL and other clubs would rather see them stay up than ourselves or the other main relegation candidates.
 
With their stadium and crowds, and the size of their away following which has to travel further than virtually every other club, the PL and other clubs would rather see them stay up than ourselves or the other main relegation candidates.

That is not in dispute. The point I am making is that they take their PL status for granted. Even the mighty Man Utd served time in the old Second Division when their wheels came off.

Besides, I am sure that a lot of Championship clubs will enjoy the cash benefits they will derive from their Sunderland fixtures.
 
A few seasons in the Championship would do Sunderland good. I wouldn't like to see them bounce back up after just one season. Let them see that they don't have a God given right to mix with the Uniteds, Arsenals, Chelseas and (dare I say it) Hulls of the football elite.

Seeing as they were the last team to play a game outside Division 1 when they first went down in 1958and have spent all but 30 years of their history in Division One, a total beaten by only3 or 4 clubs their fans probably feel that is where they belong. Unfortunately for them it is what happens on the pitch that matters.
 
What does the person do who throws his pass in anger? Do they wake up in morning and ask for it back? <laugh>
After Newcastle had lost a Tyne/Wear derby match I saw some banter whereby a Sunderland fan said he was walking by St James Park a couple of days later, when he saw a Newcastle season ticket nailed to a tree.

He thought "I'll have that".

"I mean, you can never have too many nails, can you?"