I actually don't think its the tactics so much. I don't think you could find a manager who could completely turn it around. The fact that CR has got the team fighting and looking "up for it" when faced with playing big teams shows what good he is doing. That's half the job, making the team feel good. Even if The Special One was manager, he wouldn't be doing much better. If you compare how we look to how Arsenal and Tottenham looked, you can see what the main difference is. It's not tactics, it's professionalism and discipline. That is something we so sorely lack. Why do we lack it? Because for a long time now we've had no philosophy, no consistency in staff or way of playing and therefore have not been able to make a scenario where everyone is on the same page, where new players come in and pick it up quickly from those around and where all the small details are known by all. This will take a long time to bring back to QPR. Our players have gone feral. All the small details (like where to make a back pass to, when to overlap the winger, when to make a run, where to move into space for a triangle pass, where to mark, etc.) are not known as a team. Instead, we've got individual players making individual choices about what to do in key moments. It's chaos and our success at the moment is dependent on all those individuals hopefully being experienced enough as footballers to know how to work with their colleagues and make decisions. This is all probably in spite of having a decent game plan provided by the coaching staff. So we set out in games with a good at attitude and a decent set of players and give other teams something to think about, but it all falls apart in a moment of madness when our players misread each other or have a lapse into forgetfulness about what the game plan is. The Arsenal game is a good example; we came at them and shook them up, but simply fell apart in the second half due to lack of discipline. If players have their brains virtually washed with a philosophy at the club, they won't panic; they'll feel calm and confident because they'll know exactly what to do.
Do you actually know any NHS managers? They work to a budget, trying to maximise the talent at their disposal. Having to be creative and responsive to ever evolving situations, dealing with a workforce and clientelle of very different backgrounds and expectations, with little reward and alot of pre- concieved judgement. Hmmm, let me think, I'll take their take over your simpleton, over explined ramblings all day long.
I omitted the first paragraph. It was, of course, only a joke but I can see how it might cause offence. Yet I don't know why you'd consider me a simpleton. You don't know anything about me. My thread here is, in essence, meant to be simple. I'm saying that I believe the problem at QPR is simpler than most people think and yet is a problem that goes deep and has no easy solution but will improve with time.
I don't think the content of that post merited the time you spent thinking about it and writing it. But then again I used to be an NHS manager, so what do I know?
Sigh. I picked the career type at random. I mean no offence to the NHS or its workers. Fair enough. I've already taken it out. I still don't see how what I've posted about is irrelevant. I know that tactics are definitely a factor but I don't think we can judge too well how the tactics are right now because I think that any tactician would have a tough time actually getting our current team in its current state to properly implement them at the moment. I'm saying that the key problem at the moment is probably not the tactics but the hangover from the last few years of utter nonsense going on at our club.
I disagree with so much in the OP but I've already laid out what I think of Ramsey's tactics on many other threads. Of course Mourinho would get more from these players.
Jim Jim, I'm sure you're nothing of the sort. But telling everyone you're looking forward to your own team being relegated doesn't do you any favours in this regard.
Has anyone actually got a proper comment, in disagreement or agreement? Do you think the things I've mentioned are a factor or is it purely about the tactics?
I think it is more a lack of quality. we have a lack of speed all over the pitch. The reason Arsenal beat us in the second half. is because they have some of the best players in the world. They are fit fast and more skillful. we had a 19 year old playing his second premier League game against one of the best attacking playerd in the world. There is only going to be one result. This is why we will beat crap teams. as like us they are crap
It's a mixture of many factors imo. Tactics play quite a big part, as Pulis and Pardew are demonstrating with similarly limited squads.
I missed the first paragraph so am just left with what looks like a fairly inoffensive conversation starter. Against the top teams, it's difficult to maintain a level for the full 90 minutes because you know they'll have large spells of being on top (home or away). The clear plan is there but there's less redundancy if that plan goes awry. Basically, it's easier to attack for a whole match than defend because the errors aren't as costly. I think we're also carrying a bit of a legacy of imploding once we concede. It seems to take us a while to recover. In my mind the tactics have been pretty good, the performances also decent but the small margins that make the difference between winning and losing haven't gone our way - reffing decisions, injuries and our errors all costing us.
CR is missing one thing from every one hailing him as excellent ... results I think many fans focus just on that It's a natural thing to be underwhelmed following a media clown like Harold who fed minds with words CR is working towards getting the team to play in a certain way and it's not all direct football, it's about trying to prevent very good teams killing our spirit The margins are slimmer we are getting better I really like him as he is building confidence and I expect us to challenge Palace well when I go Saturday Harold's attempts? Clear to see the difference
Small margins!!!!!!! Yes lack of pace etc etc etc......but Austin should have got at least one and two penalties(maybe therefore two sendings off)...two poor pieces of defending that lead to both goals etc etc................I think 4-2 could easily have been the score and against 9 players who knows.....
Col"s comment about how Pulls and Pardoe seem to be doing better with as limited squads as ours is a good one. But I think their squads are a bit better, and better structured. Much of the blame for this is Harry'a, he bought for a different system and then gave it up all too quick, and Hughes. Wasn't it Hughes that got rid of Punchion (walked in the door Punching) after barely time to look at him. Yet he has done well at Palace. Colin had more football understanding in his old head than those 2 ever showed at our place.
As I recall he wasn't fit much. But whatever he was another on the list of let go but shouldn't have.
