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It seems to have slipped UIR's mind just like it slipped through the keepers hands.

#selectivememorysyndrome

 

this is real cheating... you can see carroll look over at the linesman cos he knew full well it was over the line.

however to expect him to own up is unrealistic.... its not like its the same as say someone picking up someones wallet and handing it back to them... 90% of us are not hungry to care. its his job to win so to own up would be contrary to his job no?

 

Yeah, but the real victim in it was the lad that saw his superb effort ruled out, stealing a few feet at free kicks and throwins or defenders wrestling players to the ground waiting for a corner etc barely gets a mention but its all as dishonest as Carroll was in that clip.

 

It's only unrealistic if you are an advocate of the "win at any cost" philosophy- which is what we've been debating.
Having said that, I do think this is a bit different- it's instinctive for a goalkeeper who fumbles the ball to try and scoop it away before it goes over the line. Having failed to do that, Carroll was probably amazed that the officials missed it, and I don't really expect him to go running half the length of the pitch to protest.
Seeing that you've got away with something isn't quite the same as deliberately setting out to con the officials.

 

Rooney said he dived, end of discussion.

The keeper didn't make a dangerous challenge and didn't touch Rooney who went down after he went past the keeper. #nopeno If the keeper made it impossible for Rooney to ontinue then there is a case but Rooney was already past him when he decided to fall over.
This says it all Instead of going on he just falls

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Did I mention Rooney apologised to the PNE keeper saying he had to dive to get a peno?

 

#bbcsalford has been talking about crap kits today

some #perspective for the #newbalanceout #adidasin brigade

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I think said pic says it all.... keeper led with his feet and ref looks unsighted...

 

Dunno where I stand on the actual awarding of the pen. I can see why it was given, just like gerrard's against Sheff Utd a decade back (though he did genuinely tumble over after vaulting the goalie). Find it hard to see how anyone can argue that Rooney didn't dive. He'd cleared the goalie easily, still had the ball under control, and, even though he deliberately left a trailing leg there to try and initiate contact, the goalie never came close to touching him.

have to laugh at the Utd fans on here and some BS workmates and family of mine defending him though: remember Suarez last season against Villa? they were ****ing hysterical that he'd dived, yet there was clear ****ing contact in that case and Suarez was through on goal. Yet even though that was uncontrolled lunge, because Luis "could have stayed on his feet had he tried" (hmmm, who knows?) it wasn't a pen, according to usual suspects now defending Rooney (with the notable exception of martin Samuel, tbf).

 

Because Rooney simulated contact and the ref was too far away to notice the mile of empty air between them

This is precisely why simulation is a bookable offence, but also why it's useless if it's not also retrospective

 

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#prayforjoel

 

According to a scum newspaper tge german claimed....

It never happened. The scum paper have a history of lying about anything and all.

 

#racist

 

Why keep mentioning it then when there's other sources out there

 

Its as if someone is using the the main source of the interview the keeper gave as a shield against our opinion.

 

Because papers lie to sell papers.

Some guy claims rooney told him he lied and the source of this is some ****e rag paper. They created and ran with the story.

Others like usual picked up on it.

Man utd + rooney = story

 

If it's bull ****, why as the Preston keeper not corrected the lie yet?

 

Why hasnt rooney confirmed it?

 

Same reason a murderer never reveals where the body is

 

Maybe because the person that gave the interview wasn't Rooney himself whereas....well you know the rest.

 

Like you mate, I've got no interest in anything that rag has to say which is why I haven't joined in the discussion about who said what and when. But once the information is out there, as long as we're not posting a link to the bog roll, I don't see a problem.