Its got me wanting to know now ,anybody out there with the answer to this question,i have tried but have failed
I wouldn't rule out Short pulling the trigger on Poyet, an avarage of 1 win in 6 isn't exactly good going & he hasn't been scared to do it in the past.
It's a painstaking stat to put together fella. Tell you what, you give me a database of all the relegation managerial changes for a time bracket of your choosing and I'll put some stats together over the coming days?
We need a manager who tells the players to man up not feels sorry for them because the crowd demands a certain level of performance. I have wanted to stick with Gus and still do but I can only think he is constantly have a pop at the fans in the hope of being sacked? He must know it's a losing tactic? I want us to stick with a manager as the constant sacking of managers Has us in this situation. Gus is playing a dangerous game. However no matter what manager we have we seem to come out at home with a piss poor attitude. Can it really be a players fear of a home crowd?
Here. All you need to produce your own. http://www.thesackrace.com/list-of-premier-league-managerial-moves-by-season http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html
This was written last year (Feb 2014), personally any sacking like this is a risk. I've copied the article and added the link , your choice. I've highlighted a few interesting points. For me Leicester and Burnley will go, and hopefully Hull or Aston Villa, wish it was both of them. I'm a little nervy after the QPR result but not sure why as this is typical Sunderland, no doubt we will struggle against WBA and Villa but will get a surprise result, maybe at Man Utd.. Either way I am confident we will be ok.... KTF.... As a team always there or thereabouts we get a big mention. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.theguardian.com/football.../21/football-managers-sackings-premier-league The pattern is a familiar one. A Premier League club struggles for form at the beginning of the season, becomes stuck in a relegation quagmire and the manager is sacked by Christmas. Eight managers who began the campaign at the helm of top-flight clubs have already departed, in an industry where longevity is the rarest of commodities. The bottom four sides have disposed of at least one manager, with owners acting without hesitation in an attempt to avoid, what the Norwich City chief executive describes as, a fate "worse than death". Norwich are the only club in the bottom five who have retained their manager. Fulham have employed three, while Sunderland, Cardiff, West Bromwich and Crystal Palace have all opted for change. Call it panic, short-sightedness or desperation – multiple Premier League sackings are as certain as death and taxes. However, while there are examples of a club's fortunes improving in the aftermath of a departure, history reflects a different picture. In the last five seasons 11 clubs engulfed in a relegation scrap have sacked their manager – only four of those improved their league position by the end of the season. The League Managers' Association says that while a new appointment at a Premier League club brings in an average 2.5 points for the following match, a honeymoon period fades after 12 games and a team's form usually deteriorates further. In each of the past five seasons, at least one club that has changed manager midway through the campaign has been relegated. Last year of the six clubs to change managers two were powerless to avoid the drop, while in 2009-10 all three teams that went down changed their manager. There are notable exceptions where a change has proved successful. In November 2011 Steve Bruce's departure from Sunderland resulted in a rise of three places by the end of the season, while Roberto Di Matteo's sacking at West Bromwich in February 2011 saw Albion climb to 11th from one place above the bottom three. Tony Pulis's fine work at Palace this season, taking the club from bottom to 15th, indicates that it can be a gamble that pays off. However, in the majority of cases the effect is detrimental. Last year, Sunderland maintained their Premier League status but dropped one place after Martin O'Neill's departure and Reading remained in 19th following the sacking of Brian McDermott. Harry Redknapp could not save QPR after Mark Hughes left and in February 2012 Wolves slid two places and finished bottom of the league after the sacking of Mick McCarthy. Richard Bevan, the chief executive at the LMA, has urged clubs to take a more "pragmatic" approach. He said: "Verifiable data has shown that the gains from changing football managers are marginal, if indeed there are any at all, and without doubt the sacking of managers is a costly business to football clubs, not to mention the other effects that the upheaval brings. "Evidence from other sports shows that this honeymoon boost in performance often happens after a downturn, even when a club does not change manager. For the good of the game, I believe it is necessary for all stakeholders to take a more pragmatic approach by looking to the medium term. "The LMA believes that, in order to give the coach education and development programmes a chance to prove their worth, the owners have to examine their recruitment process, set realistic targets for the manager and coaches and then take responsibility to manage expectations both within the club and among the supporters. "Millions of pounds have been lost to the game resolving contractual and employment law disputes and payments to agents. Sacking football managers can therefore be an expensive and reputationally damaging business for both clubs and managers." This is not an issue solely related to the Premier League. In total, only 3% of managers have been in post for more than five years at the 92 professional clubs in the English game. In the last 12 months there have been more than 100 managerial and coaching dismissals. With increased TV revenue available to top-flight clubs, owners are more desperate than ever to stay in the Premier League. For managers, that is set to only mean one thing.
On currenht form we are still in a queer position as we have to play a mix of top and bottom teams. The only benefit we have is that we have done it once, but on the other hand...........................! Gotta love football uncertainty.
I have always worried myself like the op about new managers coming in for relegation threatened teams. This season I'm not bothering, I'd like to see abit more consistency, if you look at our wins their quite spread out, I remember when Brighton were knocked out of the play offs and Gus said that's as far as he can take that team. That's a piss poor comment and those players would've thought Fark cheers for the encouragement and developing us. No wonder he was sacked, at the start of the season when man utd were finding their feet, LVG said give him some time to develop the team. Imagine if he started ranting about utd fans wanting fergie back and his style of play, short might pull the whip out, time will tell.
I may just do that, thanks I'll have a section on daft urban myths, I could put this in the sports section. " ....... this will certainly mean we will suffer as the the new broom effect does more often than not see an upturn in fortunes."
I withdraw certainly from the the post and replace it with the urban myth we will suffer as a result. and no I don't want to bet a £100 pounds on it or meet up for a talk about it. Before you ask!
Most manager changes at relegation-threatened teams are nothing but an absolute gamble. It's a roll of the dice for an owner who has lost confidence in the person protecting their investment nowadays. I'd look firstly at the owner, somebody such as Tan demands too much from his managers, I dare say if he didn't interfere and he left McKay in charge Cardiff would have had a better season last season. Lerner has publicly shown his hand with Villa, any manager going in there knows fine well he's not going to get the support he might need. The only reason Villa's situation will improve is because Paul Lambert is one hell of a pathetic manager, anybody is an improvement.
