Obviously to try to appease the masses as we continue to weaken the squad, suffer under a crap manager, and show no ambition. Funnily enough, all of this has made the change back to blue feel rather hollow.
the real question is...why are you surprised? lets review ...Tan offers us 100million to change to red and build a team fit for the premierleague. We snatch his money out of his hands and spend it. After a few months the masses complain about keeping our side of this deal. Tan eventually caves in and gives us the colour change back...and you are wondering where the money has suddenly gone?.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that no red = no money which was the deal to start with and the deal WE wanted to go back on. Suck it up YOU wanted this... who gives a **** what colour we are in I support the team..i didn't take a interest in football because I like one colour over another
double post time why not... if you bought an item off somebody in the street. they took your money but then after 5 minutes wanted their item back. would you not expect your money back too? I don't think tan is a angel in disguise...but use your damn head and some logic
Slightly aggressive response there, but that is pretty much what I was saying. I am not surprised; I was inviting discussion as perhaps someone has an opposite view that I can accept. I am not sure why you decided to say "YOU wanted this" as if that is a negative. Sure, I want us to be blue (and I imagine 99% would prefer us to be blue), but that does not mean that the owner has a right to decide to regress the club and use a change back to blue as a tool. Then to blame supporters for that decision seems a bit ludicrous. I guess I shouldn't have worded it as a question but as a statement.
Logic?? If I can make the thing I bought better and more valuable I have a better item to either value or sell on the future. 5 minutes = over 2 years?? Go Jones...1-0
still blaming Tan..still think that tan is changing the colour as a tool... look at my above example...hes just cashing in..and rightly so
go jones? hes on a high wage...he'll be gone either this transfer window or next..hence hes been on the bench and reserves...because slade needs rid..
right you are..and hes been one of our best performers imo. blame? im not blaming anybody but ive had enough of people blaming tan, blaming slade (who I wish we didn't have I admit - but I cant blame him), blaming the colour even!.. if anything its the fans who drove this club down...we could've enjoyed our time in the premierleague but instead we made it a major misery.
My point is that you say the fans are to blame for not backing up our end of the deal. What deal? It wasn't a deal we had any say in. I am sorry, but Tan has brought all off these problems on himself. If you feel fans should just be dictated to and accept all decisions than I couldn't see how anybody could really have a club in their heart. Tan decided to change colors. Tan decided to spend heavily. Tan decided on the managers he bought in. Tan has now decided to withdraw the money. Tan went back to blue as a tool. It all comes back to Tan.
so you think that all those Cardiff fans actually wanted to stay blue...actually didn't want to remove the immediate danger of all the debt we were in..wanted to keep skrimping and saving on players...didn't want their cult hero's like noone, daehli etc.. interesting..im not sure I agree with you there...
No. I am an example of somebody who accepted the changes as necessary to ensure the future of the club. I was never asked however. So I wouldn't say I made a deal. With that said the change of colour was baffling so I hoped we may have a return to blue someday as being the Bluebirds in red with a dragon logo felt schizophrenic. So as Tan blunders on he changes back to blue in an obvious attempt to deflect from the fact he is devaluing the club...for some reason. Hell, if Tan would actually come out and say what he is trying to achieve, I would accept just about anything. If he said he wants to get rid off the overpaid, steady the ship, and look at a new plan come summer, most of us would say okay. But he obviously doesn't seem to think we need to know this.
I agree that tan should have handled things a LOT better considering there are such a large amount of people effected by his plans. But that's just how most bigger organisations handle their affairs (thinking successful online gaming). I'm not even saying my opinions are correct here. I'm just using a logical approach rather than the random tosh you regularly see on the number of cc forums I glance through each week. my apologies if I seemed aggressive with my points - I didn't mean to shove them down your throat I just got caught in the moment a bit
Nah, its okay. As you say they are opinions, and when we are talking about OUR club, passions will rise. The thing for me is as time has gone by, I almost would have rather slid down a league or two and started from scratch then gone through the **** we have gone through But this is Cardiff and nothing is ever simple!!
Many of the fans said they would rather be in the conference league in blue than the Prem in red ! Tan to give them their wish.
This is a load of utter cobblers, as is a lot of other stuff posted on this issue. Had Tann and those who do the hiring and firing at Cardiff not mae such a complete and utter balls up of the the last 12 months the fans would not have become so disillusioned. The idea that the fans said "yes, okay" to some kind of 'deal' is codswallop. There was no discussion, dialogue or agreement. He simply came in and said this is what's happening. It is then decisions made, both on and off the pitch, over the last year, that have led to poor moral, poor football and a tam who are sliding into a slurry of mediocrity. If Tan is actively seeking some kind of revenge, then doesn't that say more about him than anything else? Who wants that sort of pimp in charge? Not me. Ill be my own whore, thanks.
What people want, Dai, is to keep their self-respect in the age where whoring oneself at the altar of Sky is the norm. It's not really about the 'colour' (I'm colourblind, literally), it's about something much deeper. I Will always support Cardiff, they're my team, but I have total respect for those who've walked away.
How could you enjoy our time in the premier league post Mackay??? It was great seeing us up against the countries elite, but seeing us get pounded and absolutely battered each week, was that great too? Sorry, but the fans were NOT to blame for last season and anyone who thinks so is deluded. The fans had no say over what colour we played in and EVERYONE should prefer to see Cardiff City in blue. Hell, even neutrals wanted to see us back in blue. Slade isnt to blame, no. He was brought in to do a job and isnt performing in that job. SO, just whos fault is it?
Jay - certainly not performing with the players on the pitch but could well be getting an A assessment from VT for getting rid of high cost players and the crap brought in by his predecessors. His contract would make interesting reading. He would get much more fans' support (saying "more" assuming he has any?) if his charges could do something positive on the pitch.
