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Are there still people on here who back Wenger?

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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You know **** all about the player wages and you didn't answer my question.

    If Maureen is so good on a budget, then how come it's needed £1bn of Roman's Rubles to gain any success at Chelsea ?
     
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  2. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    He didn't, as this season proves, and his success at Porto, Unaio, and Inter.
    Please see Chelsea board for Jose's comments today
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Without Roman, Maureen would be sucking up to another sugar daddy. Don't try and hide it. Where do you think Chelsea would be without the financial doping ? They would have gone bust like Leeds Utd. You had £80m of debt before Roman bailed you out with his personal cheque book and as soon as he'd done that he spent a whopping £100m (almost £200m by today's standards) on players to buy his way up the league.

    That trend has continued until today. You're trying to make out that Arsenal have spent more, but that is utter bollocks. Our squad cost £182m whilst yours cost double that at £373m.
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Several holes in that wum attempt :

    Arsenal do not publish the individual wages of players, so the speculation that Debuchy, Sanchez, Welbeck have pushed our wage bill to £180m compared to the Chavs £178m is just speculation. Also, the figures are so close that it is just as likely to be well under what Chelsea spend on player wages.

    Also, Arsenal's wage bill covers the entire employee roster at the club. There is no way to discern whether player wages are higher, but Chelsea have an established history of paying huge wages to their players. So again, it's reasonable to suggest that your player wage bill is higher.

    Another factor is that Arsenal have a bigger stadium and bigger revenue streams as a result. We've also negotiated improved contracts with our Kit maker and sponsors (This is earning your money as oppose to having a sugar daddy pump it in) so we have more scope to pay our way based on what we earn.

    Even if the wages between Arsenal and Chelsea have narrowed over the last couple of years, that is because we can legitimately afford to do it, based on our revenue streams. Whereas Chelsea have had to get players like Lampard, Cole and Torres off the wage bill because they cannot legitimately afford those mega wages anymore and still meet FFP rules.

    In summary, our player wage bill is just as likely to be less than Chelsea's and our squad has cost half of what Chelsea have spent. We have paid for this from what we have earned as a club, Chelsea have been gifted the money from a sugar daddy who could have ended up buying the Spuds instead.
     
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    Wrong again. Chelsea's revenue is much bigger than Arsenal because the self styled best run club in England is
    dreadful in the all important commercial revenues.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#Rankings_by_season

    Chelsea are a better run club than Arsenal so despite our smaller ground we make more money
     
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  9. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Good job keeping this about Wenger.
     
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    It will be a victory for football if the best run club on the smallest wage bill, Chelsea, out of the big four wins league.

    Love FFP, Wenger was right about fair play making the Premiership better
     
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    You need to keep up. Arsenal have just signed a massive deal with puma and new stadium naming rights, so your figures are out of date. Our revenue has increased significantly this season.

    Also in terms of wages, again because of FFP Roman can no longer spend mega wages on individual players because your revenue does not allow for it. Whilst our revenue has increased we naturally are able to afford better wages.

    Everybody knows that without Roman, Chelsea would have been toast. He artificially pumped you full of financial steroids and your whole existence is based on the random whims of a Russian oil magnate, who could just have easily chosen to juice the spuds instead.
     
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    Chav Fail <doh>

    Arsenal:

    Turnover: 2nd highest in league, £283m (up from £245m in 2012)

    Wage bill: 4th highest, £154m (up from £143m)

    Wages as proportion of turnover: 54%

    Net debt: £93m


    Chelsea:

    Turnover: 4th highest in league, £260m (same as 2012)

    Wage bill: 3rd highest, £179m (up from £173m in 2012)

    Wages as proportion of turnover: 69%

    Net debt: £958m

    The Chavs have a smaller turnover and a higher wage bill. The proportion of your wage bill to your income also outstrips Arsenal and you have an enourmous debt because you have not earned the money that you have spent, you have been juiced by the Sugar Daddy.

    I can hardly believe the audacity of a chav coming on here trying to lecture Arsenal about financial prudence <laugh>
     
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    Anyway, enough of this Chav foolishment. Totter off back to your own board now where you can talk ****e about Chelsea being the 'best run club'

    This is a thread about Wenger.
     
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    Who let the Chav wum back onto our board ?
    This place has gone to the dogs in my absence <grr>
     
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    Site change allowed the wums back. Time to start the clean up me thinks <ok>
     
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    I've just got the Hoover out <ok>
     
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    About time you did some work around here <whistle>
     
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  18. gooner4ever

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    IMO there are a few too many WUM on our boards at the moment

    don't get me wrong i ike banter, but some are just ****ers
     
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  19. TheBear

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    Seeing as this thread pis actually about Wenger...

    Two observations from today:

    1. It was a great all round performance but it wasn't just that. It was also a tactical victory. Wenger got it spot on.

    2. The good recent performances from Coquelin have just illustrated how much of a difference a quality athletic DM would make to this team. I still think this is the area that a big signing would make the biggest difference.
     
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  20. Smirnoffpriest

    Smirnoffpriest Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I agree Bear - it would be great to see a tall, physical, athletic DM/Holding Midfield/CM of International standard at the club to play next to Ramsey, Cazorla, Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott and Oxo. I think our team would be really impressive in attack and defence!
     
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