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Sorry, I mentioned Hillsborough once ....

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jan 9, 2015.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    ....... but I think I got away with it!

    The calls for Gordon Taylor to resign are sadly typical of the 'Hillsborough Nazis' who rush to attack anyone who dares to even mention the word. It's reached a ridiculous point when anyone referring to the tragedy is immediately pounced on and vilified.
    No doubt Taylor will be nailed to the cross of Liverpool hate figures and never removed.

    It shows the victims no respect in my opinion.

    Yes, the comparison was unnecessary, and a little clumsy, but Taylor wasn't claiming the two things we're identical, simply saying that the full facts, in both cases, are not entirely known at this stage. That's all, he isn't saying that the suffering is in any way comparable but that both are football related.

    Unless the Liverpool people, who perpetrate these vendettas, display a more reasonable attitude they're in danger of appearing attention seeking and perpetual victims. They also need to accept that whatever fault lies in others, in this sad case, the fact remains that if some of their own hadn't pushed, in the first place, the game would be remembered as just another semi final.

    Part of the blame lies with those who contributed to the problems on that fateful day.
    Attacking Taylor for a harmless comment is just part of the smoke-screening process in my view.

    "PFA head under fire after comparing striker’s plight to Hillsborough victims."

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/08/gordon-taylor-ched-evans-hillsborough-pfa
     
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    Deleted # Well-Known Member

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    How could the two even be compared?

    One is about entering without permission, and the other, oh wait a minute....
     
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  3. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    Well said Smug - if the bin dippers without tickets and no doubt full of ale, had kept away from the ground, a different story would have been reported!!

    Bart
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've been in similar situations with Sunderland, including Cardiff away, when there were thousands trying to get in and the gates went.
    If anyone had been injured, or worse, I'd have been partly responsible and accepted it.

    Liverpool supporters, in that era, were always boasting about getting into grounds by whatever means 'necessary'.
    Yet we're expected to believe that, in this case, not one Liverpool supporter was drunk, badly behaved, ticket-less or attempting to get into the ground in whichever way they could.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    In danger of <laugh>

    That's like saying Jocelyn Wildenstein is in danger of becoming unattractive if she has any more surgery.

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  6. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Funny if those muslim twats in Paris got to heaven and got given 72 Jocelyn Wildensteins as their reward :) She's a bloody horror story...
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I've watched a lot of Attenborough documentaries but I have never seen that species before.
     
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  8. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Watch it, you're sailing close to the wind. <laugh>
     
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  9. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Better hold it in then!
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You'd still have a shot though, after 12 pints, wouldn't ya Sid?

    She's a lesser spotted, flan-faced blobgoose, rarely seen outside of Concert Square and only ever on a Saturday night.
     
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    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Would never happen Terry! By the time I'd drunk enough I wouldn't be able to get it up :)
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    “He wouldn’t be the first person or persons to be found guilty and maintain their innocence and then been proven right,” he told the BBC. “If we’re talking about things in football we know what happened, what was alleged to have happened, at Hillsborough and it’s now unravelling and we’re finding it was very different to how it was portrayed at the time, indeed by the police at the time.”

    ^THIS?^

    That's not comparing it's using something as an example. Very different imo.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    So what you're saying is you'd just let her sit on your face. Gotcha!
     
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  14. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    He done nowt wrong in my opinion. He just used Hillsborough as an example that the law can make mistakes. The overreaction to this is crazy..
     
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  15. Quinninho

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    The whole ChEvans thing is getting right on my tits. He's a no mark league one player who should be nowhere near the front page of any newspaper outside of Rhyll. Let alone the lead story on news at ten!

    The media are being ridiculous about it. Saw a headline on Bruce sticking his oar in. Which when you actually read the details is because he is mates with the Oldham Chairman and is a non story. Rather than Bruce "defending" a rapist.

    Part of me hopes his appeal is successful. Then his lawyer can make some real money!
     
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  16. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    My dig was that he based his comments on his mates assessment of the case notes instead of his own. Just shows how stupid the man is imo. Such a sensitive subject and he's basing his opinion on somebody elses opinion. All this talk of trial by Twitter, Bruce is using an even bigger platform to push his milk fed opinions. Weather he's right or wrong is subject to debate. He just has no class what so ever and that was my dig.
     
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  17. Quinninho

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    Bruce is a daft bellend for getting drawn into it all! Why would you?
     
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  18. Schwerer Gustav

    Schwerer Gustav Well-Known Member

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    Is the Hillsboro disaster in danger of becoming the scouse equivalent of Prophet Mohammed to the Muslims, it may not be referred to or used in any context other than the disaster itself.

    They are going to have all of the coals raked over time and time again until someone is deemed culpable and you know what, the dead will still be dead, it will not bring them back.

    What about Heysel?
     
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  19. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Exactly fella, it's not his content, it's that ge feels it is his place to comment i find staggering, for man who's not in possession of the facts.
     
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  20. Blunham Mackem

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    Selective memory maybe. Here come the bricks......
     
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