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Transfer Rumours Glenn Hoddle has applied for the job...

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  1. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Certainly think Hoddle is an outside candidate, blokes only in the mix because he himself put himself there. Simply isn't better than Pardew at all, it will be one step backwards.
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Certainly an outside candidate, particularly as he is his own man and Ashley wouldn't like it. In terms of comparing him to Pardew, whereas I don't think Pardew is anywhere near as bad as some seem to believe, his managerial record does not in anyway stack up favourably with Hoddles!
     
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  3. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I agree with the Pardew comment, I think some of the people believing he is one of the worst managers in the clubs history for me are just morons with big mouths.
    However regarding Hoddle, it just wouldn't be any kind of improvement, it will just take a while for him to settle with the eventual outcome being a couple bad results and the louder fans will want him gone it will be yet another managerial signing that wouldn't inspire anyone, will shine a lot of media onto the club with him being one of there darling boys, and then his treatment (which given our track record will be poor.) will see us once again seen as a bunch of ridiculous fans, making us even more of a poison chalice.

    For me we need to stay away and pick someone the masses actually WANT and the media will ignore.
     
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  4. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

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    My choice would be either McClaren or a hard-working and methodical foreign manager which none of us know very well but has a track record of developing players and getting mid-table sides to bother the upper echelons of their leagues.

    What I don't want is a big name which people will fanfare who has very little successful experience and the fans will hate from day one.
     
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  5. 2010 tops dog

    2010 tops dog Well-Known Member

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    I would be happy with him as i feel we need a fresh out look on things a new pair of eyes rather then go down the same route as previous with promoting back room staff like roeder and Hughton as IMO nothing changes and the problems don't get fixed.
    I also feel the new man would need to bring in his own back room team and lose the likes of stone etc as it's obvious they are not up to the job
     
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  6. The Armband

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    Hoddle has been at a coaching academy for the last 10 years up until his QPR position; I wouldn't exactly consider that staying involved with the modern game which has evolved massively from when he was last in management. I also don't understand the recent love in with the guy either. Why should be allowed to leave management for a decade and then come back expecting a top flight management job?

    Garde is young but I would argue he's far better suited to modern day management. The fact he won as much as he did in such a short amount of time for a team whose best years were behind them speaks volumes. If we're constantly dipping into the french market for players, then why not a manager? Southampton (twice) and Swansea both hired coaches who had been managing in Europe before the Premier League and it paid dividends.
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    So unless you are a PL manager, you are not involved in the modern game? He has been running a coaching academy in Spain, a far more advanced coaching haven than the PL, with loads of young coaches coming to his academy to assist. He was already a very forward thinking continental style coach. This is not like KK, some guy who has cut himself off from football. I think it is impossible to judge how Hoddle would fair in modern day management, there is certainly only one way to find out. The love in as you call it comes from his record as a manager, his ability to build clubs from the inside and leave foundations for the long term. He is certainly the last England manager to have us play a brand of football everyone wanted to watch.

    I have no problem with Garde either. I'd prefer a young English coach got the opportunity of course, that is how it should be in my opinion. There is little point in these guys doing there badges and the hard yards only to be told they are too much of a risk. They are no bigger risk than Garde. We have a tendency to overstate foreign coaches simply because we've been drilled that they are better by the PL machine. He won so much? He won the cup in his first season, and the equivalent of the community shield the following season. Decent going. He had to deal with players being sold but did have a fantastic academy to call on. His league finishes were ok. They weren't the big force but they were still a top 4 squad on paper.

    It is worth noting they went 4th, 3rd, 5th under his stewardship. They are currently 2nd under Fournier. Maybe we should go for him?? Lyon are not PSG, but lets not kid ourselves. They are still expected to finish in the top 4 every year, anything else is a failure.
     
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  8. The Armband

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    As far as football management is concerned, yes. Coaching and management are chalk and cheese. Hoddle seems far more suited to his current role than at the forefront of football coaching. I agree, there is only one way we are going to find out but I don't think that should be with us. As far as building foundations, that's the last thing we're doing under Ashley.

    I wouldn't say we overstate foreign coaches at all, compared to English coaches, the praise is completely warranted. Sure, I'd prefer a young English manager, but they're in short supply. All of the clubs outside the top 6 seem to just recycle English managers, simply because "they know the Premier League inside out", is it any wonder why Southampton and Swansea have come on leaps and bounds over the last three years?

    Our love of the French market is no secret, the vast majority of our signings over the last three years have been from Ligue 1. Remi Garde was in charge of a team whose best players had been sold off, and did well given the circumstances. It almost seems like a perfect fit. I'm not suggesting Garde is a world-beater, just that he's simply a better fit for us right now.
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    You've hit on the problem though. The clubs below the top six recycle the same old managers. How about looking a bit further down at the coaches who have actually traveled and learnt while doing the modern coaching badges. The likes of Eddie Howe have done the hard yards. I accept that someone like Howe is unlikely to fancy the job here, but he is far from alone at a lower level. I think Poyet will do a good job at Sunderland over the long term. He has come through the English system, learnt his trade at the lower level. Clement is mentioned and is a very interesting option if he was interested. Hell I'd put Karanka at Middlesbrough above someone like Garde. Really though you can look down the leagues and pick out the young interesting coaches who have a modern style. We have to get past this stigma of bygone years, the coaches are now being taught the right way, they need opportunity. Furthermore, they are no more of a risk than the likes of Garde.
     
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  10. swanseaandproud

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    Hoddle !!!!OMG you must be desperate. It would be a backward step and back to the out of date football that modern managers wont touch any more. Look at qpr.
     
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    Most likely to be Remi Garde but if we go for someone else then Hoddle could be a stop gap until the summer.
     
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  12. Gordonthetoony

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    Why would we want Hoddle until the end of the season? He's No.2 to Harry and surely wouldn't be interested in a few month's work knowing someone else would be here in June.
     
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  13. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    I was reading some QPR forum the other day in regard to the fans not being happy about the away performance at Burnley and stumbled on some well deserved hatred for Hoddle. If he does attempt to leave your club and travel North for another 'jobs for the boys' outing, make sure some kind souls cut his achilles heels and throw him screaming into the Thames yeah?
     
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  14. swanseaandproud

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    shearer is the man. It may take the rest of the season for him to get the team playing the way he wants and the right players he needs but next season he will have you guys firing on all cylinders. You wont go down this season so take a punt at Mr Toon himself and you wont go far wrong.....
     
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    That would be a ****ing disaster mate.
     
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  16. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Agreed, he was in charge here when we got relegated, alright it was only the last 8 games. He also hasn't managed anyone since, so really wouldn't be the manager to help us. On the Shearer basis we might as well bring back Keegan.
     
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  17. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    If we're going to go down the Shearer route, why don't we plump for Lee Clarke. Doing a sterling job at Blackpool following on from his other success at Birmingham. He also did a fine job at Huddersfield whilst having the biggest budget in League 1.
     
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  18. Sidthemackem

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    Hoddle is a good coach, but not a great manager. Can't seem to understand why all his players can't do what he used to do. You ought to beware coaches anyway. Di Canio is a good coach for instance, but as mad as a box of frogs. Before him we had Wilkinson & Cotterill, the two blokes with the highest coaching qualifications in the country! Cue relegation...
     
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  19. Blacker-than-Knight

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    As others have noted if Hoddle is so good then howcome QPR are so ****, if we want head coach rather than manager with an idea of the PL why not go after Giggs.
     
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  20. monty987

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    Megson ? Alladyce ? Gullit ? hehe I would rather have Hoddle at our club than Poyet !, we are both in the s*** at the minute, these owners are tight friggers (Ashley and Short) with money though, take our support for granted as well, and we cannot compete with teams like Hull and Villa, sell our best players. laughing stock the north east.
     
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