Atmosphere at St. James's..

My first thread on here so hope I'm not offending anyone too much..
Was reading through the BBC Sport website and their mid season review, which I think quite fairly had us down as fairly positive. I scrolled down to the comments where one of the most upvoted posts was as follows:

"Newcastle fans must be the worst in the country to play in front of as a home team. They were on their players' backs after 10 minutes today and made no attempt to get behind them after they'd turned it round. Got to be the most arrogant, deluded set of fans around!"

This made me think, I don't get to games as much as I'd like, only 2 or 3 a season as I'm limited by budget and geography (live in Manchester at the moment) but the atmosphere does seem to be struggling at the moment. I don't know if it is largely down to the supporters apathy towards Pardew, or the brand of football we are playing, but perhaps this particular quote from whoever wrote it could be a bit of an eye opener. I think lots of supporters, myself included, have got swept away in mass hysteria towards Pardew, when in reality, our position is roughly where we should be, maybe even above where we should be given the players we have at our disposal. I really hope for a return of the raucous atmosphere of old, even only a couple of years ago it seemed to be better. Anyway, I think the general gist of the post is do you think us as supporters are being unrealistic and what would Pardew have to do to turn this generally negative atmosphere around into a positive one?

 

"They were on their players' backs after 10 minutes today" Bullshit

"made no attempt to get behind them after they'd turned it round" more Bullshit

"Got to be the most arrogant, deluded set of fans around!" Souness or Lawrenson I just can't decide

 

This!

The atmosphere at St James' is abysmal, let's not kid ourselves. When we had L7, where I had my first and second season ticket, it was pretty much that corner of the ground making ALL the noise. The Gallowgate has the odd decent game, and more so after L7 was destroyed to make extra family seating, but it's still piss poor. Given the away supporters are miles away from where any singing takes place now, it's easy to see why they come away with a bad impression, but there needs to be a collective movement to make an atmosphere. This isn't the players' fault, this isn't the owner's fault, this isn't Pardew's fault, it's the fault of the people passing through the turnstiles.
Whether because we've been spoiled in recent history, and expect better, I don't know, but it's a brat-ish attitude, and not one to be encouraged.

Look at the likes of Crystal Palace, their home support beckons out of the screen and it's wonderful. There's no earthly reason 50,000 Geordies can't make as much noise as that.

Half the ticket price is about the atmosphere and having a good time. Sitting there being all introverted and miserable isn't helping anyone. Get the finger out lads, it's embarrassing.

 

I wasn't saying I agreed with the sentiments of the post by the way, just was asking why you think other supporters might have that opinion of NUFC supporters, what is it born out of?

 

a) being a bad loser and supporting another team/bias
b) Our atmosphere is poor, as is the atmosphere at most of the big stadia in this country
c) Our "singing section" (we don't have one. we have sporadic bursts after a goal. Not good enough) is nowhere near the away fans

 

Think you're definitely right about the away fans, have heard many other clubs supporters complain about it being so high up in the gods. Even if there was singing near them they'd probably be pissed off at how poor the away section in general is.

 

Meh. It's not the greatest place to sit, so the away fans can sit there for all I care

Having said that, it's not a bad view at all. There's not a bad view in the house, and besides, a third class seat is better than listening to the radio and simultaneously masturbating to porn, as I've never done in my life.........

There just needs to be a conscious effort from supporters to improve the atmosphere, get into things more. That's why in general I'm not a fan of our supporter's groups, they never seem to inspire anything we should actually be doing... ie supporting the team when we go to games.
Of course, it's down to individuals ultimately, but I think it's something we need to really get to grips with together.

Starting off on forums like this isn't a bad idea, to be honest. We have a decent contingent on here. Let's all get tickets for a match soon, and all get together, have a few drinks, then go sing our hearts out for the lads

 

Strawberry corner atmosphere always spot on!

 

Nowt compared to L7. There's about 50 people there who try to create a bit of a buzz, not really good enough!

I love the people who get tickets in the "singing areas" of grounds for the atmosphere, and just sit there and listen and lap it up... stupid twits!

 

I never did like level 7 to be honest, but then again, I'm old.

 

Yes it was a bit teeny... I had to pretend I liked Twilight or I'd never have made it out alive, half the time the singing ended up changing pitch due to the collective ball-dropping of the congregation, and the only guys over 30 there were basically the "cool" dad types and perverts... But still, I had a great time. The 5-1 atmosphere up there was simply out of this world

 

Split on this one. Attend nearly every home game. When its good like Chelsea and the 6 game winning streak its very good. It can be very very fickle though. When we conceded against Everton, it was poisonous and unhelpful. This is often the case. The old "same as anywhere" excuse doesn't wash. Under KK we'd concede and the sound just got bigger. Its one reason why Pardew leaving to make room for a better loved manager to take over.

 

Agree with BG on this and then it depends on which part of the ground you're in.

I'm on L7 towards the Leazes Corner and I like it.
There is still singing there, not like it was, but its still goes on, although it can get drowned out depending on the Away support.
Actually, from where I am, the Gallowgate seems quiet most games.

 

not where we were sitting in the lower section of the Leazes

this

 

Thats fair enough but you have to take the ground as a whole. I sit in the Milburn. There were groans from all over the ground at every misplaced pass. Its like a disease, the players and manager do well to rise above it at times being honest. I'd love to be glowing about our support but they are fickle.

I watched the game back on sky (mainly for Cisse incident), it confirmed it. I don't really understand the pleasure they get from moaning. One goal in a game of football is not the end of the world.

 

talking of the Cisse incident

this taken from the BBC website covering the match

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  Raheem Sterling is lucky there. Federico Fernandez seems to have annoyed him and the Liverpool man throws his hand in the direction of the Swansea defender's face. It certainly wasn't a punch, a slap maybe, but you can't do that these days. He has got away with it though as the game goes on.
  
• Liverpool 4-1 Swansea
  

it looked like a thrown punch to me, we'll see what happens here
also Shelvey was supposed to have thrown an elbow as well

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  Shohidur Rahman: Idiotic from Shelvey and should've been sent off.
  
  Dwain_44: Shelvey elbow on Can. Say hello to your 3 match ban.
  
  Ashley Wilkinson: That's shocking from Shelvey. But how are the referees, three yards away, missing these? Marriner missing another big call.
  
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  Jonjo Shelvey shows good feet as he waltzes past two Liverpool defenders on the edge of the penalty area. As the ball gets away from him, Emre Can goes down holding his face as the former Liverpool midfielder's arm smashes into his face. Perhaps not the last we have heard of that incident. That looks naughty from Shelvey.
  

 

The whole Cisse incident is blown out of all proportion. Yes he is in the wrong but quite simple. Coleman was holding him, ref was doing nothing, Cisse tried to get him off, couldn't, so he give him a dig with elbow. Happens all the time. He'll get a deserved 3 game ban and everyone moves on. Not as if he did any damage or intended any. He overreacted, big deal.

As long as all the other incidents are treat the same, no problem.

 

I think part of the problem is that fans feel disengaged from the Team/Manager at the moment.

We've seen too many goals go in against us this year and not come back, and fans automatically think, here we go again.
The Team did well to get back into the Everton game as the crowd were relatively quiet beforehand.
It used to be the case, that, when the opposition scored, there would be a roar from the crowd to get back into it, that's gone now and has been for sometime.

The malaise is there, and its needs something to happen to change things.
Pardew going, could provide the catalyst needed to kick start the relationship between the Management/Team/Fans again imo.

 

Defo and its why I said he should go in the summer. Its never going to change while he's here, and I suspect what has ground him down.

 

Gary Neville has just said that there should be no retrospective action against Sterling and Shelvey because
in his words "the referee was in a good position and must of seen the incidents"
and there for no action should be taken - you've got to be ****ing joking