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Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur Match History 19285-2015

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by THFC6061, Dec 12, 2014.

  1. ValleyGraduate12

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    ****ing hell.
     
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  2. Mono

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    Well that was bollocks......

    wtf was Richards doing ???
     
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  3. Mono

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    All those chances we created, then we go and give them a goal like that.
    I hate football on times.

    22 points from 16 games doesn't look so good anymore, considering we we 22 from 14.
     
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  4. Cherry Jack

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    I ****ing hate spurs these days, they always seem to beat us even when we are the better side.
     
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  5. Mono

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    1 Win and a draw in the last 5. Sucks.

    In fact - 3 wins in the last 11 in the league....... poor form.
     
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  6. bigkidderz

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    Spurs were really dirty in the first half. But we overcame that and dominated from then on.

    We're a poorer team with Shelvey on the pitch. We need to offload him. Not because he's a bad player, but because he's not Swansea. The more he plays the more obvious it gets. When he played alongside Britton or ahead of Britton and De Guz last season, he was fine. Our identity generally has always used 2 defensive midfielders. It just feels like with Shelvey, it gives Ki too much to do. It's why we also play better with Carroll on the pitch. As soon as Shelvey came on, you saw Spurs slowly wrestle their way back into the match. Our midfield dominance slowly evaporated. That was partly down to Shelvey, and partly down to Britton not being there. I'm shocked that Monk can't see this. He should be bringing Carroll on for Britton (obviously not today), or not making the sub at all.

    While I'm on the topic of substitutions - why was Rangel taken off? He was poor last week and was left on, but this week he's taken off when, defending for Kane's goal aside, he was playing really well! It doesn't make sense to me, and as much as I think Jazz is great back up, I genuinely didn't see the need for his presence on the field today. Unless Rangel had taken a knock, I don't understand substituting your right back.

    On the whole, a nice performance and we should really have won that game. Plenty of positives to take, but we have to start converting the positives in this game into points in the next game.
     
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  7. exiledswan

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    we were well and truly done today - apart from a dodgy first 15mins we were all over Spurs and created enough to get a hatful. good performance overall but our soft underbelly let us down again - we should have put that game away
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    No idea how you lost that one, to be honest. We were good for the first 15 minutes and the last 15, but you were far better for the rest of the game.
    Seemed to lose your way somewhat following the substitutions, so perhaps that explains it?
    Then again, it might just be one of those runs that clubs seem to get into against bogey sides every so often.

    Keep playing like that and you'll be around the European places at the end of the season.
    Good football, entertaining and effective, and you've got a really dangerous frontman, too.
     
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  9. DragonPhilljack

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    Monk needs shooting for taking Britton off instead of Ki, and Bony needs shooting for messing up so many chances, and the officials were crap, other than that the rain had a good game...<cheers>
     
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    Excuse me! We well and truly did ourselves in if you don't mind.............<doh>
     
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  11. Turkish

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    That's the best I've seen the team play today. Stunned that we didn't win after dominating the game for most of it.

    I don't think the game changed due to Shelvey coming on. Spurs took off Soldado (or someone else if my memory serves me correctly) and brought on Chadli which gave Spurs more in midfield. It just happened the same time. I thought Shelvey did well, passing was on point and apart from giving the ball away at the end he doesn't deserve stick for this game.

    Enjoyable game to watch but when you don't take any of that amount of chances then there's always a chance of a breakaway goal.

    The early Spurs goal knocked the stuffing out of the stadium too but there was a brilliant atmosphere during the second half.
     
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  12. ProjectVRD

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    What I see is a dip of form which Stereo rightfully pointed out, is it coincidence that Shelvey has lost his place? I hope this is just a blip, the West Ham game was diabolical but this Spurs game I think we were done over by circumstance... be it intentional or not by the referee.

    We have two angle's two view this blip:

    one says W1, D1, L3.
    The other W3, D2, L3.

    With regards to the first option I take solice that we are not alone because Stoke have suffered an identical record and Southampton exhibit a D,L,L,L,L. Now that is a major dip in form! We are away to Hull next and I hope we can get back on track, a win there and our last 5 games will show as W2, D1, L2. That would be much more like mid table form. We are home to Villa after that and then it is a tough match against Liverpool.

    I would like to say we have two easy games before the Anfield trip but we never make these things easy for ourselves, knowing our history we are more likely to beat Liverpool at Anfield (a tough game) than beat both Villa and Hull (which should be nailed on wins).
     
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  13. ValleyGraduate12

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    I wouldn't say we have a dip in form. We didn't win today because Bony fluffed a load of chances. We should have won that game by 3-4 goals. Our form/play is very good on the pitch, but we need to be more clinical in front of goal. Become more clinical, and we'll bag a lot more points.
    The only game we have been poor this season was at WHU, but they have and will make a lot of sides poor this season.
    And that's before we mention the refs performance. Lamella should have been sent of on two occasions and Vertghongen was very lucky too.
     
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  14. No Kane No Gain

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    It's weird how it works out with boggy teams sometimes, isn't it? You always seem to give us a good game but we nearly always come away with all 3 points. I remember awhile back Bolton were always getting something out of the game when we played them. It got to the stage where even Campo was scoring 40 yard screamers And then there was our awful run against United which included throwing away 3 goal leads, a truck load of dodgy penalty decisions and the Mendes lob which went 2 yards over the line and didn't get given. It's just one of those things that happen, I guess.

    We definitely didn't deserve to win today but we'll take points however they come these days and after another disappointing home result we really needed to win to stay in touch with the right end of the table. I didn't think either side played particularly good football, to be honest but it was pretty horrible weather out there so it wasn't easy. As a Spurs fan I'm more inclined to criticise our defending rather than Bony's movement as I thought we made it far too easy for him, fortunately for us he had a shocker infront of goal, even the one he scored came from a lucky deflection on his first shot, which was going wide, and sent it straight back to him for a second go. We've made a habit over winning late on in games and I'm not sure why but you guys seemed to lose all your momentum in the last 15 minutes and I think we saw the benefits of leaving out a number of players for the Thursday Europa League game, otherwise we probably would've been dead on our arses at that stage.

    Anyway, good luck with the rest of the season, I'm sure you'll turn around the poor run soon enough <ok> Oh and I've seen you guys have been linked with Naughton a lot over the past few months, I hope you don't get him for your own sakes, he's really poor. Maybe Monk will work some magic on him though.
     
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  15. No Kane No Gain

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    I get the second Lamela one but the first was nothing more than clumsy in my view. If Lamela was shorter, or the other fella was taller there would have been nothing said of it, he didn't move his elbow in relation to his own body and stepped across to protect the ball. Not sure what Vertonghen did wrong either, he won the ball and caught Routledge as the momentum took him through, I'd say it's a good tackle but I've seen players booked for them before. Certainly not a red, infact I thought Ki's was at least as bad, he was always going to catch Mason like that even if he'd got to the ball.

    As for West Ham, they're perfectly set up for playing at home on their small, narrow pitch. It allows their big bruisers to get up and down the pitch without getting caught out all the time, away from home they're easier to play against. Just a game to get out of the way I reckon.
     
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    I thought he'd already been booked by the time he did the tackle?
     
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  17. THFC6061

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    I'd have gladly taken a point if it was offered before the game, so to come away with all three is rather bad manners, I feel.

    Swansea really did deserve something from today's game, so you have every right to feel mugged.
     
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  18. No Kane No Gain

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    Now you've got me unsure so I've grabbed this off the live text: YELLOW CARD

    Swansea 0-1 Tottenham

    Posted at 34 mins

    The wet weather is leaving the pitch very slick, and Jan Vertnoghen goes into the book for sliding into Wayne Routledge. Ugly looking challenge as it's a bit two-footed, but Vertonghen does win the ball. Yellow card it is.


    Seems like he got booked for it unless you're referring to another one.
     
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  19. swantastic

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    68% happy with that game unlucky to lose it and ref not good again, jazz, shelvey struggled but bony should have had a hat full of goals !
     
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  20. swans-cartoonhead

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    OK - mugged by Spurs, but Hull, Aston Villa and QPR next up - gotta get some points out of them! Remained in my seat at the Liberty for a good 20 minutes trying to figure out he we were beaten by a s**te Spurs team, but its the Premier League and s**t happens - we didn't put away our chances and at this level you are going to get punished - Spurs had two gifts from us; well it is nearly Christmas - remember Newcastle doing it to us a couple of seasons ago!

    Madley was his usual ineffectual self, but we are beginning to realise that referees are gutless scumbags where we are concerned, but that is no excuse - if we had converted just a few of our many chances the ref decisions wouldn't have mattered! We need to find a killer instinct to put teams as bad as Spurs away! For all our dominance it was almost inevitable that they were going to scrape a lucky winner! Great first save by Tremmel but WTF didn't he grab the ball from Jazz's feet?

    Jazz was like a rabbit in the headlights and Spurs got an undeserved winner! They were one of the worst we have seen at the Liberty and we still contrived to lose the game - but they are a 'so called' big team so we can take something from the fact that we made them look worse than ordinary! But that is no consolation - we will be fine this season, but we should be thrashing w**kers like Spurs - regardless of their superior spending power and the inclination of their players to cheat at every opportunity - Soldado is a diving scumbag and I lost count of the number of hand balls!

    But as I said at the start of this thread, we have an opportunity of serious points in the next three matches - Hull, Aston Villa and QPR! So keep the faith - 9th on 22 points after 16 games and if we replicate today's performance then we will take points from the next three games!
     
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