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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Spanish Tiger, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Willson

    Willson Well-Known Member

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    If we were to do that would you want to give Bruce another chance at spending it all or want a new manager to come in and have big money to build a new side? I know people hark on that managers are sacked too readily but look what progress Southampton have seen by switching through 3 different managers.
     
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  2. Billy ask Queue

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    Don't really know if we need massive changes. Just think yesterdays team selection was just plain wrong. Can't see any situation where Robertson and Brady don't play when we need to be winning games .
     
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  3. jamesthemonkeh

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    Or look what happened last time we were in the Premier League and sacked our manager.
     
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  4. jamesthemonkeh

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    Agreed. Robertson should at least be playing the winnable home matches. For me, he has too many defensive frailties to play the really top sides.
     
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  5. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    We can't sell most of our first team.
    Gareth Bale was playing left back not long ago.
    I don't see the point of selling a talented player just because he's not a good full back.
     
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  6. kingstontiger

    kingstontiger Well-Known Member

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    I agree with so much of this except the bit about us being so close, as I think SB has shown misplaced confidence in Hudds and Livermore for quite a long time now and don't really see him changing it. I actually think Livermore is the bigger issue. Hudds clearly offers something different despite his weaknesses, but really think Livermore tackles less well, plays fewer decisive passes and gets into attacking positions less than either Quinn or Meyler.
     
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  7. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    What's Bale got to do with it? And i said at a price that would give us 400% profit. And why cant we sell much of the first team? We've got a far too large squad so we could shift out 6 or 7 and just bring 2 in. Plus the fact we've won 2 league games this season suggests that first team isnt good enough.
     
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  8. Gawge

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    I agree that it has been like this for a long time, we are close in the sense that a few changes of team/tactics would make a pretty big difference, but I share the fear that it isn't going to be solved any time soon.

    Mainly because Huddlestone and Livermore don't make many mistakes to get dropped, because they do so little.

    But yeah, I'm indifferent about which one of Hudd+Livermore should be dropped to get Meyler in the middle. I was slightly on the side of keeping Livermore in the team, because he seems to do slightly more offensively, but it really is only slightly more - and Huddlestone is probably better at the long balls. I suppose we could just drop them both for a while.
     
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  9. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Bale was a left back who has quality going forward. So is Robertson. See the link now?

    The players we have are not playing to their ability but I still believe they can and will play a lot better. If we get rid of a lot of players we will have to accept slashed prices.
     
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  10. petersaxton

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    We made a big profit on selling Long but what good did it do us?
     
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  11. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Erm, no i dont. Robertson wont become a forward.
     
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  12. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    How about left midfield?
     
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  13. Willson

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    Robertson doesn't have anything like the physical prescence, dribbling ability and skills, or powerful shot that Bale has. He just doesn't really have the skillset to be a top forward. He will be a very good attacking full back with some defensive frailties, just like most top full backs in world football. Look at the best; Dani Alves, Marcelo, Alba etc. their main strength is their attacking ability and their defensive work comes a distant second.
     
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  14. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    If somebody is not a very good defender but a good attacker I know what I'd want them to do and what I'd not want them to do. I don't really care what Barcelona do.

    Remember when it was all the rage to have centre backs who could bring the ball out of defence? That didn't last long after they all seemed rubbish at tackling and clearing the ball.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Which is the reason Elmo will always be RB over Rosenior.
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

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    Yeah he could but we've already got Brady and Quinn.

    Using your logic every team shouldnt sell a left back in case they turn out like Bale.
     
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  17. Willson

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    Yes but I still believe we would be much better out wide with Rosie behind Elmo and Robbo behind Brady. At the moment Elmo is severely limited in how far forward he can go so crosses far too early making it almost impossible to score directly from the header as the ball is coming from between half way and the goal rather than being cut back from just next to the by-line. I think one of Bruce's greatest failings is not sorting the lack of variation from crosses. They have been our main outlet every season he's been here and yet they are continuously the same, crosses from deep to nobody.

    If we had Rosie behind Elmo and Robbo behind Brady our attacks out wide would be much more varied with overlaps and link up play. We would be far less predictable and much more dangerous on the attack as well as more defensively solid.
     
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  18. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree. Its square pegs in square holes and the oppo would never know where the cross was coming from whereas at present its painfully obvious. At present we NEVER play the best right back at the club at right back!!

    I only said sell Robertson cos Bruce clearly doesnt fancy him at left back. I'd have him there with Brady in front so he has the adequate defensive cover from Robbie.

    My team would be

    McGregor

    Rosie Chester Dawson Robertson

    Elmo Diame New Signing Brady

    Hernandez

    Jelavic

    Cash in on those I identified in the other thread, get the new midfielder right and that team stays up with ease.
     
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  19. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Gareth Bale play in a losing Spurs team twenty odd times before he was actually on the winning side ?
     
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  20. TigerRoo

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    A million for SAGBO!

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/mr53249530.gif
     
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