New threat to QPR stadium plans . Share/Save Submitted by WG on Mon, 01/12/2014 - 06:09 Queens Park Rangers face a new threat to their plan to build a stadium at Old Oak Common. Cargiant, the biggest landowner in the area, have now teamed up with the property company owned by the billionaire Livingstone brothers, giving their alternative project more credibility. However, a consultation suggests that 90 per cent of local residents favour QPR's plans. Cargiant is now in a partnership with the Livingstones' London and Regional vehicle and is working to secure planning permission. The Livingstones have been involved with other big development schemes including London's West Ferry printworks. QPR owner Tony Fernandes has said that moving stadium is vital if QPR are to survive as a Premier League team. They have played at more grounds than any other club, 16 in all.
Seems like it's just one obstacle after another with this ground. The board have a choice, go the hard route and end up with a top stadium at the heart of west London, that will benefit the club and community. The alternative is the easy route. Dare I say it, MK Dons took the easy route. The easy route has some perks (ie. new fan base) but the pitfalls are massive. However, if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing well. I hope Tony and the board stick at it and find ways to overcome the obstacles so QPR get a great new home.
That's 90% of the 3000 R's fans who responded to the club's survey Col. Including people like me who are hardly 'local'. It's pretty meaningless. This story was in the Sunday Times business section yesterday, with a bit more detail. The Livingstone's company is a serious player in property development and management, but has never done anything on this scale. Still seems to me that Car Giant is in the box seat because they own a chunk of land, but at the same time they are not bidding to develop the whole Old Oak site. This will go on for years before a decision is made, let alone building starts. Unless we walk away, like we seem to have done with the training ground.
Unfotunately, I would reckon that the size of your pile of crisp £50 notes in a nice brown envelope would hold more sway than any consultation with local residents - money talks!
Let's think the unthinkable for a moment. QPR's new stadium is 10 miles West of W12 but the brand is preserved. Would you: 1) stop supporting? 2) stop going? 3) stop being a ST holder? 4) Continue just as you are? 5) Another option of your choice. Don't misunderstand me. It would be a gargantuan decision, and not one I am in favour of in anyway, but, were the unthinkable to happen, I would still be there supporting The Hoops. I'm just not sure Tony, Amit, Reuben and Lakshmi would be!!
As it is a fair time since I have been to London, there was a rumour about the Lindford Christie stadium a while back. Was/is there any way that could work as it is very close and we now have the Olympic Stadium and Crystal Palace. Without causing a massive shooting spree, dislike them as we may but a joint stadium with Brentford? Especially if they go up and join us in the Prem. I've locked my front door and barricaded myself in.
The decision to this proposal will be decided behind closed doors with a few trousers legs rolled up IMO The smoke screen means nothing Tony Crooks has ****ed a lot of things up in public but I am certain that this matter will be dealt with money and power ... if it hasn't already been done so?
How is this a "new threat" to our stadium plans? So, they've teamed up with a property developer? Of course they have, that's what you do when you want to develop property! QPR will have teamed up with their own property developer, neither of which will make any difference to the decision of the GLA. Nothing to see here..
Moving the stadium further west is probably more acceptable to fans than it would be to the owners. Their plans are for a centrally based stadium surrounded with an entertainment complex and offices, it's the only way to make funding for the stadium work. So moving it to the outskirts of London just isn't an option. Seeing as we have the backing already from the GLA, all 3 borough councils and railtrack who own the largest plot of Old Oak, I would say we are still very much in the driving seat. Cargiants plans would mean they still have to move? The fact they only intend to build on their plot of land means the majority of the land would remain untouched, which would surely mean our plans are far more appealing as we propose to change the entire area. It doesn't matter which developer they choose to bring in, none are bigger than Mittal and his ready supply of steel and Amit's concrete.
