With the population getting bigger and the nhs becoming unsustainable when do you think it will end i predict in the next five years. I think within the next five years hospitals will be geared up with card machines and tills. For example if you've broken your arm its £100 for an x ray and any other treatment is extra. This will be the best thing to happen to the country because our taxes will go down.
It would be a good thing if the NHS, the envy of the world was done away with? Spoken like a true Tory Douglas.
You'd have to be very naive to think that taxes will go down. Any government would simply use the NHS budget to shore up the deficit etc.
Fat people are crippling the NHS, I'd like to think or I hope at least that unhealthy food is heavily taxed before making the NHS private. Then I'd like to see 'donations' to overseas countries tapered back to zero if necessary to save our NHS. If it still can't cope, then we might have to look at privately funded (through employer initiatives ideally to get work-shy scroungers back into graft) healthcare.
I work in the NHS. The Tories, if they get back in, are gearing it up for privatisation. If It's privatised then we'll end up like America. People will be dying because they can't afford their insurance. I am a Diabetic on an insulin pump which, in itself, costs nearly £4000 to buy but is funded by the NHS. People say that's a bad thing but I can guarantee that if I didn't have it over the last 3 years, hospital treatment on me would've cost more than the £4000 it costs. The 4 years previous I was admitted a number of times due to various infections and issues with my diabetes as a result. Various items were used to make me better such as IV stuff etc. That isn't cheap in itself. As Bri says - obviously a Tory
Don't get me wrong if you genuinely need it such as cancer treatment fair enough but too many foreigners come over to have treatment and kids who haven't paid a penny in. Charging would put a lot of people off using the nhs and a lot of old people who waste time.
There's no doubt that the NHS is a great idea gone wrong. When it was introduced, people would go into hospital for appendicitis, broken bones, burns, and occasionally to have babies (though a lot of babies were born at home with a visiting midwife in attendance - my sister was one of them). If you had a dicky heart or something, you were told you were going to die and that was that. Today, people expect triple heart by-passes, kidney transplants, etc. The NHS is expected to fly helicopters from one end of the country to the other with replacement organs! The costs have spiralled out of control. Now, the NHS is just a black hole to pour money into, and the more you pour into it, the greater demands there will be on it. I can see private health insurance growing in importance to pay for it. It can't go on the way it is. But the end of it? - No, I hope not. It's a magnificent idea.
Our country doesn't have it in it's DNA to refuse treatment and let people die, it's much more likely that the working class will be squeezed for the bill as per every other 'cost' we need to cover. This will probably be done via insurance premiums, same as motor insurance that pays for all the 'whiplash' claimers. You are right though mate, the abuse our NHS gets from time wasters and people like Josie Cunningham is forcing it towards breaking point.
You having a laugh ? Envy of any country that doesnt have a health care service perhaps (like USA), but having had operations in both France and the UK, I'd pick French health care any day of the week. 1. Prescriptions are paid for by the French health service, something that the NHS doesnt do unless you're unemployed or a student. 2. Hospital rooms are for 2 to 3 people max, and you can pay for a private room if you feel like it 3. I have never had a delay in France if I had a scheduled op. In the UK my op was delayed five ****ing times, each time I was given a bowl of ****ing cereal and told to wait another 16 hours during which I wasnt allowed to eat anything else. I was ready to kill someone after the first 3 days. 4. In the UK, the waiting list to see an NHS dermatologist is 8 months - 3 months if they suspect cancer (I was told that by my GP). I can get an appointment within 2 months in France. Same for dentists, the wait time to see an NHS dentist is ****ing ridiculous, while I was a student it was quicker to wait until the next time I was in France than try to get an appointment in the UK I shan't go on, but as you can tell my opinion of the health service in the UK is pretty low.... Edit: BTW, I dont think the NHS should be scrapped, but it needs major reform
Seriously? So you believe that an ill child should not be treated? I have been diabetic since 1977 (I was 2 when diagnosed) and with your attitude I'd be dead now. Do these children's parents (such as me) not pay their taxes? What's your opinion on someone who is type 1 diabetic and their treatment. Type 1 is completely unavoidable and completely uncurable. No blame can be attributed to anyone. Or someone who has a heart attack despite being physically fit simply due to the family history? No blame attached but would you charge them £1000 to have it fixed or die?
No i don't because i think even if your child is ill you should have to pay for it. I know it's sad but just because your child's ill i don't think you should have a blank cheque from the state we should make it even and everyone has to pay so nobodies left out.
That wouldn't be the case though mate, medical insurance would pay the bills for the child. The parent would be responsible for paying their medical insurance bills. It's just like paying your council tax, only you'd get something in return in this scenario. The problem arises when people on whatever form of benefits obviously cannot pay their medical insurance, so there would need to be a measure put in place to bridge that so that no child or person on benefits would suffer as a result of not being able to support themselves. I spent years thinking that National Insurance was essentially our healthcare contribution, but I was shocked when I researched what it was actually spent on.
If you can't pay then your in trouble because you won't get treatment they should make health insurance a requirement by law.
Tory then as we said. What about people already on the breadline. I work hard for a living and have little spare income at the end of the month. Health insurance would basically mean I can't afford other required things (kids clothing etc.) -
Prescriptions are free in Scotland and Wales. You have listed your experiences which are not an accurate reflection of the NHS, I have had six operations in my life (most though sports injuries) and have only good experiences, but I am not naïve enough to think that mine is an accurate reflection either, the truth will lie somewhere between our experiences. The NHS may not be perfect but it is a system that we should be extremely proud of, we should be especially proud of the staff who work within the very difficult budgetary controls but still delivery a first class service. The NHS has evolved over recent years, through stakeholder partnerships with the private sector, but it will always be free at the point of delivery for people who need it
I don't agree with that. There's grey areas, if you're incredibly fat then I'm sorry it's your own fault. I don't see why others should foot the bill for gastric bands and heart operations. However, if you're born with a disability that means you can't work for example, then I'd expect us to foot the bill as a nation for the treatment. It's not as cut and dry as you're hoping it will be, it will never be that way thankfully.
1. ok, but if you work and pay your taxes, you have to pay. if not, you can get it for free - unless you are "lucky enough" to have a certain illness, pregnant or elderly. 2. In the UK, hospital wards are the norm. rooms of 2 to 3 people are much better imo, especially as they try to assign people rooms logically. they are not going to put an 18 year old in for appendicitis in with a 70+ year old bloke who needs his crap bag changed x times a day. not for the 18 year old, but for the 70 year old who probably wants to retain a bit of diginity and who doesnt want to be disturb by a bunch of other 18 year olds turning up and having a laugh with their friend. private rooms in France are on a pay for, first come first served basis unless you have a specific reason for needing a private room in which case you get priority. 3. Yes a delay is normal if an emergency case comes in, however delays are more frequent in UK hospitals as the NHS cant afford new hospitals, expand existing ones to cope with extra demand therefore the resources are stretched anyway even without emergencies coming in. 4. I suspected as much, but I still dont have to wait as long to see doctors/dentists etc in France as I do/would in the UK Dont get me wrong, the NHS in a good health service (in theory if not always in practice), but it was the claim that it is the "envy of the world" that I found ludicrous.
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