I'm gonna get slated for this but I think he is atrocious. I have thought so for years. He's had his moments, like goal vs cardiff but for every "brave" tackle he puts in, he tends to make a really poor and costly mistake. I've just watched replays back and forth on MOTD and he is arguably to blame for their goal. For some reason he steps out of line and out of the box to track the ball carrier, who then passes it to the wing, by then the only defenders in our box are chester, elmo and I think brady, marking 3 Burnley men (3 on 3 isn't great). And by the time Calamity Mcshane comes back to do his job and stand in line, Chester in the mean time didn't know who to mark...as boyd (Mcshane's man) was alone. Chester opts to switch his marking from Barnes who he was in front of and could have cleared the header easy(the goalscorer) to Boyd and leaves Elmo having to scurry in front of Barnes which was hardly going to happen. This is not the only thing either, thankfully, he gets away with things. Such as the shot that went wide with Macca trying clumsily to clear it, doesn't know whether to use his head or foot, he was never going to get to it. Also a replay of a Burnley cross which Macca gets a free header to clear and heads hit straight to the ground for a combined 3 yards. Thankfully it didn't cost us. Many of you will defend him and say "just an off game" but Mcshane is a terrible defender. His effort and energy have carried him in throughout his whole professional career but otherwise he's absolutely dreadful. If every single one of his little mistakes cost us we'd be shipping 5/6 goals a game. I'd rather start four at the back than include him in a 5 at the back. Of course the rest of the team aren't perfect but I just don't get how Mcshane hardly ever gets a blame. He's some sort of ****ing saint it seems.
Are you serious? We have many **** players at the club... wonder why the Jak or Figgy aren't getting the same amount of love.
Yes... I wonder why players who've hardly ****ing played for us and have done **** all with us and when they have played for us have always been utter **** are not getting as much love as our longest serving player on the books who has always given 110% and pretty much scored the goal which got us promotion to the Prem in a season where he was brilliant... Must say, I love you using three instances from today in a game where everyone played crap as a reason for why he's been **** for years...
If you think McShane is **** now, you should have seen him before. His desire and commitment is always top draw. He knows he's not the best player technically so looks to counter his shortfalls in other ways.
Well, if you want me to document all the bad mistakes he's made over the years I could do but I'm a little tired right now. A memoire could take a while. So you're excusing his present mistakes because of the past? That doesn't usually tend to end well. Pretty sure we/Bruce should be judging everyone equally on their current form. The fact that a few posters have elected him MOTM when he was to blame (if anyone was) for their goal just proves my point. A few decent kamikaze blocks seem to plaster over some of the more serious mistakes he commits. It makes no sense to start a player who's football is so erratic and unpredictable. I can only assume that he's playing because he has a presence and voice within the team. The fact that he's been here since 09 shouldn't make him immune of criticism.
He's always been ****e. I'm just trying to figure out how effort seems to outweigh performance when it comes to fans' criticism.
Just on the point of who's fault their goal was. I'd say it was more Chester's fault. You've said it was McShane who caused this, but an international defender shouldn't get caught under the ball and and an international full back shouldn't let his man run across him.
Because I'd rather someone who is ****, but tries his hardest, yet may fall short play over someone who is a lot better but clearly can't be arsed and ultimately gives a weaker performance.
No one ran in front of ELmo. Barnes was already quite a distance in front of Elmo. Barnes was Chester's man but when Macca left the box Boyd was totally unmarked , I'm not surprised Chester felt the need to mark him as Boyd was dead centre of the goal. Macca trying to be the hero and get the ball of playmaker caused our defenders to shuffle and stretch.
If you're expecting world class faultless performances, I suggest you follow Chelsea. If you want a team playing there fourth ever premier league season stick with City.
You cannot give 110% It is impossible. There is no way, certainly in this context anyway. I have no idea why people write it (generally)
Really after that shambles today the only player I couldn't blame is Harper the ten outfield players need to take a long hard look at themselves
THIS is exactly what I think. I'm not commenting on today's match as I wasn't there and haven't even watched MOTD yet. Back in 2009-10 I was one of Macca's biggest critics and winced whenever I saw his name on the teamsheet, (Stoke away 2010 *shudders*). Didn't help that he was often played out of position at right-back however. But the determination and effort he's shown in the years since to turn his game around has been phenomenal really. I think now he is a reasonably solid centre-back. Never gonna be spectacularly fantastic but he knows what commitment means and how to put in a tackle. Positional awareness is probably something he still needs to work at.
Its abloody disgrace to single out one player in that shambles. He may make mistakes but at east you couldnt faultvhis effort, unlike most of them. Macca always gives 100% and the same cant be said of the rest on that showing. Get off his bloody back.
Agreed. Of the back 3 he was the best of them yesterday. I'm not a Macca fan, I know what he is and what he can do but, Davies our Captain was rubbish and Chezz got caught under a high ball for the goal. Not the first time he's done it. Which is why he was subbed. If all are fit Macca's dropped. Though Davies is, like Hudd and Jake, at the point where Brucey has a decision to make. Let them play their way out of a slump or drop them. Trouble is when its just nowt goes right and you're unlucky, I say persevere, when its lack of application and bottle-drop the ****s.
