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  1. Tobes

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    You can state an opinion based on what you've seen, and most would say from what they've seen, that they're poor signings. Those players could turn it round and make people eat their words, but it bollocks to say you can't conclude that on current evidence they look like bad business
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Signing Lallana, Markovic, Balotelli and Lambert would suggest that our strategy was based on Suarez staying.

    Lallana being the solid squad player to rotate with Coutinho
    Markovic the youngster who would featuer a bit throughout the season
    Lambert the Plan Z option
    Balotelli was a last resort
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    Balotelli was just stupid and is the noose that Rodgers has hung himself with. All the others can play and if we click they are all good players.
     
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  4. Redbrynner

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    I dont know what to think at the moment. It all seems a bit of a mess. I dont know what yhe best thing is but I hppe we can get back to playing like we did last season. If iwas to criticize rodgers it would be for.
    1. His summer spending.
    2. The wayhe apoears to alienate some players
    3. Not changing something thats not working

    but what do I know. Just a bit football depressed at the moment.
     
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  5. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Why is 'entertainers' in quotation marks? Were you not 'entertained' when we put four past you (and it could have been double that) at Anfield without reply? Well, anyway, as to your perspicacity, shall we talk about your views of Martinez when he was first mooted to replace Moyes? "A fraud with no idea how to defend", and "Taken Wigan down with his vanity to get noticed by a top club playing Hollywood football" was, to paraphrase, the general drift of your analysis. You were even more scathing than when he'd been in the frame to replace Dalglish the season before.

    My take is and always when I championed Martinez (and welcomed Rogers) is that ilk of manger brings eventual good football, essential to the dna of both of our clubs, but whether they'll build winning machines is debatable. Then again, last season's near miracle aside, I don't think either of us will be in any position to challenge for anything but the odd cup anyway for the foreseeable future, so we may as well do it with style. There's no style atm, however, but, nonetheless, there's still more hope than there was in Woy's day.

    So, we endure and hope for the best - but unless we get sugar-daddy and Klopp. then this - the odd season of challenging and, mostly, decent football, is as good as it gets. If we can emulate Arsenal, then I think we've achieved something.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    You were good to watch last season I've never said otherwise. The first 20 minutes of the game against Arsenal was some of the best football I've ever seen. The quotation marks were merely to highlight the fact that it was a title given to you and not merely my view in that comment.

    I've eaten **** about my view on Martinez on many occasions, so no need too drag it up yet again.

    The rest of that post appears to assume that were in similar positions, which merely highlights Rodgers failure imo, as you've had the budget that should see you competing with the best of them, and he's torched it.
     
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  7. luvgonzo

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    I'm not too bothered about the spending I like the signings other than the obvious one. We should have bought a striker........OH YEAH! WE DID THEN LOANED HIM OUT. <doh>
     
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  9. ValleyGraduate12

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    £212,380,000 <yikes>

    ****ing hell if Roberto Martinez had that budget, Everton would win the league <laugh>
     
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  10. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    I agree. Quality depth and alternatives styles.
     
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  11. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    There are one of two errors on that list. Dalglish signed Texeira and maybe signed Yesil to?

    A team of just Rodgers signings could look like this:

    Mignolet
    Manquillo Lovren Sakho Moreno
    Can
    Allen - Coutinho
    Sturridge Balotelli Lallana​


    The midfield has no muscle. Though Gerrard and Henderson make up the main body of our midfield in reality.

    I'd like to see that back 4.
     
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  12. Klopp's Mannschaft

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    55million of that is on players who are 'promising' and for the future...such a waste.
     
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  13. dan1231

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    Rodgers' biggest error was the purchase of Lambert. I don't know why he did this since if Lambert had to be relied on to score, it is obvious to me, that he could not do this. He played in a system at Southampton where he fitted in to a style of play and even then, he wasn't always first choice.

    Buying Lambert was like buying back Carroll from West Ham.
     
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  14. ValleyGraduate12

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  15. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    I wouldn't say it's a waste but it wasn't priority <ok>
     
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  16. We were playing that back five before Sakho picked up a injury (and Johnson was still out)
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sure it is, it's all waste...

    Markovic... In all the time he's been here I've seen one run, one, that suggested any talent at all. He's not up to it

    Just make a list

    All small players

    Lallana
    Markovic
    Sterling
    Coutinho

    All short, only one with burning pace I can see

    Allen, short too

    In short the prem is half about big strong players. Look at Chelsea, Costa will never be pushed about, neither will matic and the small guys they do have are benched half the time.

    Liverpool have zero presence in midfield this year, Henderson is all over the shop, Allen can be pushed off it, can is not fit, Gerrard has bottled it since he felloverhinself and upfront balotelli would die rather than compete for a ball.

    There's no coincidence that arsenals era ended when visits and petit type players were replaced with smaller lighter lads who found it hard to compete

    This league, and Europe required big strong athletic players as well as technique. If we have two shorties in the team fine but they have to carry thier weight. And the others must be able to run run run
     
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  18. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    Lambert cost £4m, Carroll £35m. Lambert was signed as an alternative style impact sub who can come on and add muscle and height late in games and he does exactly this. Carroll was signed to replace Torres.

    I perfectly happy with Lambert. The job he was signed to do is not pretty so he wont get much credit but he's come in is doing it just fine. Balotelli was the bad signing.

    True, whilst Skrtel was injured.
     
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  19. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    We had no midfield last year either - we were carried by the attack.

    In all fairness - Henderson and Allen are workhorses, both useful in certain situations. Problem is, they have no attack to carry them this season. The central midfield need to provide more attacking options and to carry the ball further. They didn;t need to do that last season because of SAS, Sterling and Coutinho.
     
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  20. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Was reading some interesting comments on Twitter about the need for a top class number 2.

    Rodgers currently has Colin Pascoe. Fergie had the likes of Steve McClaren, Rene Mulensteen. Rafa had Pako and struggled once he fell out with him. Clough had Taylor aand struggled without him.
     
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