Time for a change before it's too late. Our constant negative tactics and not a single win away all season is not acceptable. We should be able to compete at this level at least mid table should be achievable. I don't want Hessy either he can go as well. Bring back Mad dog...
Couldn't get to the game today, had a 12 hour night shift last night and another tonight. The result was predictable, especially considering Fleetwood's home record and pur away form. Looking at the bbc's stats for the game it looked quite even? I am in agreement with you re the negative tactics, notedly at set pieces and corners but struggle to see who Taylor would be replaced with. His signings have pedigree and he has more status in the transfer market than any other manager we have had since... well...him?
Status in the transfer market? Don't buy it. That might be true if we were sitting mid table but nobody wants to sign for a team who are bottom, under FA investigation, have no money and a chairman who has proven he ignores employment contracts. Just like I said a few weeks back, he will be sacked, Hess will be manager till at least next summer. It's an absolute joke of a situation. Scally sacked the manager who was performing better than this and who had a league title to his name and then allowed Taylor to rip that squad apart, sack the back room staff who were instrumental in our promotion and now can't win an argument. 5 goals in 12 with strikers like Cody who we know can score, Kedwell who we know can score (and let's not forget letting bayo leave!)
Needed somebody to steady the ship last year, which he did and we should be grateful for that. After that success it would have been hard for Scally not to give him the job. Scally has always been loyal to his managers , so much so that it has led to a relegation or two and I fear this season will be the same if he changes manager at all.
I want to say something but before i do, I just want to reiterate i have always shown untold loyalty towards our Chairman, hence i've never allowed this platform to become an anti Scally domain. However, on the topic of loyalty to his managers and the word always...I question this...MA won us a L2 title, not favourably with me in regards to squad selections, BUT within was it eight games, maybe more the following season without going back and checking the factual stats, he was gone...do i call that loyalty...hmmm
People keep harping on about MA and how he won a title, do people actually believe that MA was sacked over footballing reasons. Today we sounded like a team that should have got something from the game, murphy's law say's otherwise.
Come on grumpygit you know my opinion on the tinpot silverware....i just don't get all this PT kept us up stuff....yet look at us now...measure against measure....PT to date is no better a manager than MA on current form. Maybe that might change....maybe MA might have turned things around if given longer...lots of maybe's....but one thing i know for sure PT's team is sooooo boring to watch.
What was Martin Allen's points per game last season compared to Peter Taylor's last season? that will tell you if he kept us up or not as they largely had the same squad. This season it's Taylor's squad and only he has managed it so far so you can't really compare.
brb, It's not about football is what I am saying, MA went for reasons other than the league table. IMHO
I agree that it probably wasn't football reason that lead to the dismissal of MA, he was a kooky oddball character that made many fans love him as a manager but it unfortunately seemed that his manage by hand grenade style blew up in his face (pun fully intended) when we started to struggle, I recall a player saying to Kent Online last year that peter taylor had lifted a 'black cloud' from the club aka Martin Allen. Change is needed now though I'm afraid and to the people who question who we can get, I'm sure if I was a out of work manager looking to get back in our a talented non league manager (know it went wrong with Stimson) you would see a decent sized League 1 club with a talented squad that are underperforming with a chairman who has a proven record of standing by his man through thick and thin, why would you want it?
Martin Allen i believe and i accept it is only my opinion...was starting to turn it around. So i don't really believe the points ratio is a fair comparison, unless you want to count the previous season's tally as well. It's all about opinions but i think PT gets far to much credit than he actually deserves without the true measure of MA over the course of a season being known....because unlike Taylor he was gone under a near comparison record this season. So when does Taylor walk...using the same rule of measure?
I hear what you are saying grumpygit but if the powers that be keep things under wraps then we have to measure as mere supporters on stats...and my measure currently of PT apart from being boring is not a good one.
This nonsense about MA not being like has been bandied around for ages. Look at facts. Under him we had less injuries, overall better fitness and a much higher work rate. I couldn't give a toss if the players didn't like being treated badly. Look at Sir Alex as I always say. Every player who has worked under him and written a memoir has cursed the very ground he walked on. He was a control freak, overly angry and obsessive about the smallest faults. Then look at the track record of his club. I don't care if you don't like a manager, it's your job to be the best you can. Same situation at Crawley, sack fatty Evans, the players are on youtube singing and celebrating but the results falter and the club are now nothing Like the force they had become. Love or hate these people, they get results. Allen deserved more.
My bring back MA suggestion was tongue in cheek. Is it any coincidence he's doing rather well again this season with an unfancied Barnet side.
........... not forgetting with some Gills rejects. I've managed to do a Peter Taylor today - I can take positives from today -- I didn't go -- I didn't get up long before sunrise and not getting home until tomorrow or wasting a lot of money.
I think the rose-tinted glasses need to be taken off regarding MA. We were heading down with him in charge, the football was poor and we won the title due to nobody else seemingly wanting to win it. However, PT done what he needed to last season. That said he should never had been the long term option. As has already been said the football is negative in the extreme and the fact that our midfielders have scored a grand total of 1 league goal (Dack) between them this season says it all. Definitely time for him to go and to appoint someone new ie no Hess and no MA.
Maybe I should clarify, I don't want Allen back, I think he should never have been sacked to start with. I don't believe in bringing managers back once they have left. I don't know who we would replace Taylor with except Hess, neither of them are good choices in my book. At least sacking Taylor might force Hess to change the style though
I would rather have my Mum in charge than Hessy. He's already had far too many chances. Using a Jose saying 'he's a specialist in failure.'
I said a couple of weeks ago that I believed Taylors time was up and nothing has changed we just have fewer matches left to get the points required to survive. I dont think there would be a shortage of candidates for the job either with so many clubs changing managers on a regular basis, applicants could feasibly include people like Brian McDermott , Paul Jewell, or Sean O'Driscoll and if we dream maybe even Tony Pulis!
