1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The return of little boy who cried wolf

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Obadiah, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,250
    Likes Received:
    2,686
    "Any chance you could explain to us one more time how the club is on the verge of financial meltdown?

    In your own time sweetie." Boothferry2Wembley

    I said Assem Allam is running out of cash not that we were heading for melt down.

    Ehab Allam today said our income is the same as Burnley and if you're income is the same as the bottom clubs you'll be a bottom half team. The next stage of our development is to become a mid-table team. For that you need cash.

    Our accounts showed an income of £84.4 million last year including £3.9 million from the FA Cup run. With the increases in season passes and the increased amount paid in shirt sponsorship I'd expect a similar amount this season. This may change the higher up the table we are.

    Our expenditure per the accounts was £60.4 million. This is made up of cost of sales, admin expenses and interest payable. We have to pay the July costs from that income, which comes in at £6.1 million. So for the year our income was £84.4 and our expenditure £66.5.

    We improved the squad in the last transfer window. Our net spending was around £21 million after deducting the Long and Boyd transfers. If the new contracts are on average 3 years we have to find roughly £7 million in cash to pay the first instalment on the transfer fees, plus the £9 million we owe for the players we've previously bought plus the extra £3.3 million we may have to pay to the players as a result of appearances and results. In total an extra £19.3 million.

    If last year's wage bill remains the same next year we will make a loss of £1.4 million. However I suspect our wage bill will increase considerably given Jelavic wage will cover a full season, we re-negotiated a number of contracts last year and some of our new players will be on much better wages then our existing players. I have not included the cost of agents' fees either.

    Allam Marine made £11 million profit last year, which wouldn't cover Hernandez's transfer and agents fees and wages.

    Some of my figures are estimated but most of them come from the accounts and the introduction to the accounts on the official website.
     
    #1
  2. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Isn't estimated like "made up"?
     
    #2
  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    I think it's fairly obvious that we're trading at pretty much break even and banking on Premier League survival.

    Nothing wrong with that, as long as we don't get relegated.

    I think it's unlikely we will be relegated in the short term, but it's likely at some point.

    If the worst did happen, we'd be in serious bother, meltdown wouldn't come close.
     
    #3
  4. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    That's fine, we'd be in the same situation as when Dr Allam stepped in. Would give a chance to some other mysterious benefactor(s) to step in and do it properly wouldn't it seeing as its not like the club could disappear entirely is it?
     
    #4
  5. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,250
    Likes Received:
    2,686
    Yes, it could be that Michael Dawson is getting paid the same as Alex Bruce and Hernandez the same as Sagbo. But I don't think so somehow.
     
    #5
  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    If it happened now, we'd be in roughly twice as bad a situation as we were last time, but I don't expect it to happen, so it's not really an issue in the short term.

    And as you say, the club wouldn't disappear anyway, it would just drop a division or two.
     
    #6
  7. King Curtis

    King Curtis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,457
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    You're like a complaining old woman in every thread. Just shut the **** up looking for hidden motives!
     
    #7
  8. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,633
    Likes Received:
    5,198
    I think you are being a tad harsh. Happy Tiger needs to do this, for some reason, best known to him.
     
    #8
  9. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Wow, for all our differences I never had you down as an end of the club denier. How could the entire disappearance of Hull City AFC get twice as bad this time?
     
    #9
  10. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    38,698
    Likes Received:
    20,415
    Happy, do you ever take notice of anything, or are you just oblivious to the world?

    Genuine question.
     
    #10

  11. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    I take notice of everything I can...

    Like, our club was on the verge of being totally wiped out of existence. I still do not understand how anyone doesn't see that.
     
    #11
  12. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    The situation would be the same, obviously, the only difference being that the debt is twice as big now.
     
    #12
  13. Croz

    Croz Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2014
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    2
    But it is owed to Allamhouse not the banks so although it could be called in it is unlikely.
     
    #13
  14. Croz

    Croz Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2014
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    2
    Double Post
     
    #14
  15. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    It's very unlikely that it would be called in, but the fact remains, we're now in twice as much debt as we were when we were taken over.
     
    #15
  16. Cityswall

    Cityswall Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,339
    Likes Received:
    163
    However the playing squad is worth Christ knows how much more also.
     
    #16
  17. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    It is indeed.
     
    #17
  18. ElTigre

    ElTigre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,438
    Likes Received:
    1,149
    If City ceased trading wouldn't we at best be at the very bottom of the pyramid? The Northern Counties East League?
     
    #18
  19. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,952
    Likes Received:
    76,846
    City won't cease trading, nor would it have last time.
     
    #19
  20. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    17,041
    Likes Received:
    3,374
    Parp!
     
    #20

Share This Page