O/t labours housing policy

The Labour Party has said they want to build 5 new cities and 200 thousand homes every year...instead of going through all of that trouble why don't they not just reduce immigration?

 

That's exactly why they need these new homes you speak of.

 

I've never read this in the Labour Party manifesto or heard any senior member quote it...Where did this info come from?

 

And how would they do that? How would you do that?

 

Must say, I haven't read it in the Labour Party manifesto either. Mind you, I stopped reading it in 1976.

 

Migration in, 500,000 a year which the government admits to. Imagine the real number.

Net migration (the amount of Brits going abroad, buying houses in Spain for instance, and paying their way) is 500,000 minus 250,000. We get half a million of the worlds poorest in exchange for 250,000 of our well off who make a big contribution to the economy wherever they go to. We get cheap labour for the rich to use instead of employing local Brits who end up on the dole. We also get people who want to change Britain into a muslim state.

These people all get housed (and are given preference over the Brits) so cutting down forests and building on our countryside 200,000 houses every year still leaves a shortfall.

We can do nothing about it while still in the EU.

The only hope is to vote UKIP. Cameron will not take us out, nobody believes him.

 

So you're asking them to increase immigration? Or just spouting ****e, again.

 

Is your real name Nigel?

 

At least Nigel wants change unlike the rest of the lying bastards.

 

Right let's have some rational thinking on this.

There is a shortage of housing in large parts of the country, even with out immigration the population is increasing, as a result after decades of a failure to invest in affordable housing, especially social housing and smaller low cost housing to buy there is a structural shortage of housing.

The consequence of this is that housing in this country is vastly over priced and rents are even worse.

The result is that in vast areas of the country people on average incomes can not buy and are forced into the hands of private landlords, (who have pushed up the price of low cost housing by buying up the stock hence market values of property has increased) who will obviously charge the market rate, which at a time of shortage is inflated.

So you can not buy a home or rent one at a reasonable cost, in the end the tax payer ends up by subsidising the landlords by paying much higher housing benefit ( before any body says anything the vast majority of housing benefit is paid to families in work not the unemployed).

One of the the reasons for the shortage of housing is that the family unit is no longer as strong as it used to be. We have smaller families now and we are less inclined to have shared rooms than was the case in the past. With the number of families splitting up and an increase in the number of people who decide not to marry, there has been a large increase in single occupancy. All of these factors result in the desecrate need to build more houses.

If you then add into the equation, the fact that house building is labour intensive and the vast majority of the materials use are sourced In the UK, building is one of the best ways to boost the economy with out drawing in imports. It will also have the effect of making housing more affordable both to buy and rent, reducing the housing benefit bill into the bargin.

So think before you type in future. Simplistic solutions lead to ill thought out conclusions with unexpected consequences, with sums up the UKIP policies.

 

Bit concerning that the two lads promoting UKIP on this thread are both living abroad.

 

never mind the labour party's policy. Gentoo are riddled with corruption. You can have a house as long as no friends or family want it

 

I'm back in Sunderland now. I was with HM Forces in Germany but I've returned home.

All those who want open door immigration. Do you have children? Are they all working? Are they able to get a house or a council house? Do you have to wait for a Doctors appointment? Have your wages gone up to match inflation?

All these things and much more are a consequence of the 5-10 million increase in UK population over the last 10 years or so.

In the NE we haven't been affected as much as some areas of England but it is only going to get worse as the population dramatically increases.

Would you like to be an ethnic minority in Sunderland as in London, Bradford, Liecester etc.
Have you not heard of 'white flight' where immigrants are taking over areas of towns and cities?

Simple mathematics show that with their larger families, the immigrant population will outnumber the indigenous population before the end of the century.

Will you embrace Sharia law?

What is wrong with the Australian and Canadian immigration system (or are they racist?)

What figure would you give for a maximum population for England before you think it's enough?

I think we are over full already.

Not you Northern Soul personally but can anyone who supports open door immigration give me a figure.

We could build over Barnes Park, Thompson Park, Mowbray, Roker etc. we could knock down Penshaw Monument and cut down Hylton woods and build houses on these places but eventually we will run out of places to bulldoze and there will be nowhere left.

So any of the liberals out there, what is your limit before you say enough is enough and then you become a racist just like some of you may be thinking I am.

Controlled immigration = good.
Open door immigration = bad.

 

Not for long mate. What's concerning is the amount of people who'll vote Labour even though the LIBLABCON have created short term policies for decades and created real social problems throughout the UK. Coming from Jarrow i can see how Labour continually waste millions on pointless Socialist projects (how much for a new library) and have continuously opposed any sort of job creation in the borough. I'm sick to death of Jarrow being known for nothing more then people marching to London.

The Tories and the Lib Dems are useless. A good UKIP kick up the arse is the only viable option. Living in Poland I can clearly see how 50 million pounds of your taxes are wasted by the EU.

The blunt truth is that the growth in the UK population (especially in the last 15 years) is leading to problems (not at the top end of society) but hitting the working class hard. Schools are bursting at the seems, health care is a joke and housing an extra 5 million non-uk citizens has caused a huge problem. The only Labour MP i have time for is Alan Johnson. If you have time read what he said about the mistake Labour made with immigration. And before you throw BIGOT and RACIST at me please remember that I come from a family of Irish Immigrants and have a Polish wife and son.

What concern's me is that we can see the problems living outside of the UK that you can't see living there. Keep on voting Liblabcon (because your Granddad did)... things can only get better

 

I'm by no means for immigration and I think Blair and co are utter ****ing bellends for opening the gates the way they did. Doesn't mean I'll support Farage and Co.

Since turning of legal voting age I've never voted. None of the policies or personalities on offer do anything for me. I don't trust any of them to run the country properly.

I'm personally looking to leave the country as soon as I can. We all have our own ways of dealing with the ****e we've been handed.

 

What worries me regarding Farage and his merry band of UKIP's, is the total lack of questioning by all almost all the British media sources regarding many of their loony right policies such as those on the environment.
Ed Miliband just has to eat a burger in public and the tabloids are on him like a rash..

 

which lying bastards would they be?

 

Nigel wants power, just like the majority of the lying bastards (of which he is one), would be another way of putting it.

 

Immigrants built the country. Not one person in this country doesn't have some sort of foreign blood in them, be it Irish, Scotch, Welsh, French etc.

Attracting the brightest people to the UK is what has kept us dining at the top table these past 300 years. Immigration isn't a new phenomenon and has been happening forever.

Immigration isn't the problem, ignorance is.

SPMF