1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

O/T The Harsh Reality of the Premier League

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,295
    Likes Received:
    55,789
    Good article by Brian Reade. I do think a lot of City fans outrage is cos we've come to the party very late, all the **** to fans of Premier League teams has been going on for years before we were ever aware of it.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brian-reade-column-well-being-true-4402588

    With talk of taking a full round of Prem fixtures abroad and December's travel nightmare TV fixtures, this week shows the contempt in which fans are held.

    The pub I drink in before and after games has a hardcore of fans who can’t wait for kick-off time to approach.

    But they’re not regressing to childhood, their stomachs fluttering at the nostalgic prospect of soaking in the fuggy warmth of Bovril and linament.

    They just can’t wait for the crowd to disperse so they can stretch out and focus on the TV action being filmed a stones-throw away, but beamed back to them from Saudi Arabia, Estonia or whichever country the landlord has aimed his dish at.

    Some can no longer afford a pub-going match-day if it requires spending £42 to enter the ground. Others gave up their season ticket and were unable to get it back because it went (in their words) to “another day-tripper.”

    Many don’t even resent the foreign fan, having long ago understood that if the club is forced to pay £20million for average midfielders demanding £70,000-a-week to warm the bench, they need to do all the fleecing they can. And souvenir-loving tourists carry the most lucrative wool.

    I mention this as the re-floating of the plan to play a full round of 10 Premier League fixtures abroad is met with well-intentioned cries of “this can’t be allowed because it’s the tip of the iceberg.”

    Come on. The iceberg has been melting for years.

    Much of the game’s life-blood already believes their birthright - their place in the ground - has been sold to people who are outsiders, whether they’re on package tours from Asia or well-heeled clients being entertained in boxes. So what’s new?

    I received dozens of emails last month from season ticket holders telling me they’d been forced to move from seats they’re being charged £56 for, on Champions League nights, to make way for corporates.

    As clubs go in search of more and more sponsors to boost revenue streams (sorry, “welcome partners into our family”) and thus are forced to hand over more and more match-day seats, the needs of the traditional fan becomes less and less relevant.

    They’re viewed at best, as scenery, or something to stare at from the best seats in the house. And at worst as noisy irritants who jeopardise future growth with their ridiculous claims to have moral ownership of the club.

    Proof of the contempt in which fans are held can be seen with the list of the December games the Premier League has allowed Sky Sports to show.

    It is not possible for away fans to get back from ANY of the re-arranged Monday night matches via public transport.

    And if they don’t care how you’re going to get home from Burnley, why should they care how you’re going to get back from Brunei?

    In an era when putting a pay-day loan company on shirts is accepted with barely a shrug, kick-off times are at the whim of satellite channels, your team can be sent to Turkestan on a Thursday night as part of a league nobody but UEFA wants, the World Cup can be awarded to Qatar and moved to winter to keep them happy, seasons are interrupted with competitive internationals against waiters from San Marino and Gibraltar and up to two-thirds of cup final tickets go to the sponsors, let’s not even bother feigning outrage about the Premier League “selling its soul to the devil” by moving a set of fixtures abroad.

    Just accept the devil long ago bought the naming rights to that soul and concentrate on injustices you have a far better chance of defeating.

    Like world poverty.
     
    #1
  2. BrAdY

    BrAdY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    18,956
    Likes Received:
    2,582
    it will come crashing down and i cant wait till iy does
     
    #2
  3. Girt Bucket

    Girt Bucket Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    3,998
    Likes Received:
    470
    No San Merino for you then.
     
    #3
  4. onlyme

    onlyme Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    Likes Received:
    179
    fine post chas.
     
    #4
  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,606
    Likes Received:
    75,773
    Defeatest attitude, the game would benefit from more fans refusing to accept some of the current issues.

    With the new TV deal that's coming, match day revenue will become even more insignificant for all but the top four clubs. It's a perfect opportunity for clubs to instead expand their grounds, drop ticket prices and try to make the game as inclusive as it once was.
     
    #5
  6. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Well, I like it. The away grounds are better for a start.
     
    #6
  7. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,734
    Likes Received:
    9,062
    I've been thinking that for 15 years but no longer do.
    TV and media companies need to fill schedules so the price will only go up.
    The £500,000 a week player is very close to being a regular fixture.
    SCANDALOUS but true
     
    #7
  8. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,734
    Likes Received:
    9,062
    I've been thinking that for 15 years but no longer do.
    TV and media companies need to fill schedules so the price will only go up.
    The £500,000 a week player is very close to being a regular fixture.
    SCANDALOUS but true
     
    #8
  9. The greengrocer

    The greengrocer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2013
    Messages:
    5,858
    Likes Received:
    2,224
    Don't think it needed an O/T before it? It's bang on topic.
     
    #9
  10. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    This. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #10

  11. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,295
    Likes Received:
    55,789
    Wishful thinking. It wont happen. Liverpool are going to expand with the express intention of raising ticket prices not ensuring local scousers can afford to go.

    Fans accept everything and have done since its inception.
     
    #11
  12. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,201
    Likes Received:
    17
    How can anyone not agree, apart from Dr Allam of course, who continues to see his weekly bank balance drop as another expensive cucumber picker joins his payroll from one transfer window to the next.....
     
    #12
  13. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,606
    Likes Received:
    75,773
    If everyone thinks like that, then it's a foregone conclusion, but not all of us are prepared to roll over and are doing what we can to reverse this trend(and I'm not talking about CTWD).
     
    #13
  14. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,201
    Likes Received:
    17
    some of us have already voted with feet!!!!
     
    #14
  15. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    You mean like paying for club Wembley?
     
    #15
  16. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,606
    Likes Received:
    75,773
    As soon as my ten year debenture ends, my involvement with Club Wembley ends.

    I didn't buy the tickets, I inherited them when I bought the company that owned them.

    You'll have to come up with some other snide remark to cover your inadequacies as a football fan.
     
    #16
  17. bobby ace

    bobby ace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2013
    Messages:
    726
    Likes Received:
    424
    The English game has been a victim of the BPL's success. It is the world league, in some ways; the BPL is watched by more people than La Liga/Bundesliga/Serie A combined. That audience want to see players from their own country so, over time, PL clubs have become like divisions of the Foreign Legion. Personally, I think this is great and I enjoy it for what it is. There really is no point constantly bemoaning that 'it was better in my day'. The game has changed irrevocably.
     
    #17
  18. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,739
    The reason there are so many foreigners here is not that their countrymen want to see them play here but because they can earn more money here, maybe not the very top ones, Ronaldo, Messi etc but the lesser ones and even fairly ordinary ones. If you think that is great fair enough. I don't.
     
    #18
  19. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2011
    Messages:
    4,218
    Likes Received:
    1,929
    What's really sad is the 'product' would far more attractive if they dropped prices.

    The stadia would full of local people creating a far better atmosphere.

    But owners and the Premier League are so greedy they can't see it.
     
    #19
  20. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,734
    Likes Received:
    9,062
    Greed is good !!! Greed is right !!! Greed works !!!
     
    #20

Share This Page