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  1. atom heart mother

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    To put it mildly - Ashley has got himself in a bit of pickle here.
    It's well known fact that he is a business man, money is his main driver.
    Through some buy low sell high tactics with players going back to Carroll and beyond he has managed to just keep enough quality in the squad to keep us in the Premier League.
    From this player trading he has made a lot of money and supposedly paid himself for the loan.

    Being in the Premier league pays huge sums to him from Sky and all of the worldwide exposure to his SD brand is worth a lot of money too (although difficult to quantify because he doesn't pay to advertise like most companies)
    All in all, financially he is doing pretty good out of owning the club.
    So, we are now in deep ****.
    He has a team looking like they will be relegated which will end the big pay days from Sky and the SD exposure - ok, there may be parachute payments but overall it will severly reduce his rewards and will reduce the value of the club when it does eventually go up for sale.
    He can't keep on the way it is going now otherwise he will lose all the the afore mentioned income.
    So what is he going to do about ?
    He has a puppet manager who he can do seemingly anything with, but who is totally clueless and is
    steering the club down like the Titanic. If he sticks with Pardew he knows the financial consequences not to mention owning a club which he can hardly attend matches because of the poisonous atmosphere - where is the fun in that ?
    If he gets rid of Pardew he then has to convince another manager to take the job.
    No decent manager would come in and work under the conditions Pardew has been under, they would need guarantees of funding, a say in transfers - basically they would want more control - to be their own man.
    He might find another idiot to work like Pardew has but that wouldn't change things much either..
    So Ashley - what do you do...

    A. do nothing, keep Pardew and lose money
    B. replace Pardew with another puppet and probably lose money
    C. Change your ways, bring in a good manager, commit to funding the club properly and strive for success, excitement and winning ! No short term guarantees obviously, he can't change the squad till January by which time it could be too late to rescue this season.

    Option C will cost him more and would definately not be his style based on his history so far but he'll
    surely still make decent returns and potentially drive the value of the club higher eventually.

    What do you think he will do ?
     
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  2. mmmkay

    mmmkay Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what he's going to do but he has to do something

    -the manager has clearly lost the team and fans
    -assistant manager cannot go around swearing to fans and offering to fight them
    -gk coach is on twitter swearing at fans too

    it's all fkd up behind the scenes and if something isn't done now we are down without a shadow of a doubt
     
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  3. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Pardew will stay unless we're in a relegation fight. It's as simple as that.

    It's too early in the season to know if we are or not so he won't be going anywhere for at least another 6-8 games IMO.
     
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  4. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Inaction is not an option.
    Fatty needs to be decisive.
     
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  5. barnaby

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    He needs to sack Pardew and change but it ain't going to happen.
     
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  6. atom heart mother

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    wow - I heard there was an exchange with the supporters but I didn't realise it was this bad !!
     
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  7. DMD

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    He's got to give him at least one more game. :bandit:
     
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  8. Geordie lass in the Fen

    Geordie lass in the Fen Well-Known Member

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    Plus - we now have only a small handful of players who have any worth to the club, either from a skills/ talent perspective or financial point of view. We may also have a few rough diamonds in the development squad.
    Non of these players will want to hang around either to play in the championship or for a club on turmoil, who are gonna get hammered, week in and week out.
    Ashley must call a halt to this decline now and bring in a new manager.
    The plYers need a new leader And new belief, sadly no-one with the skills to sort this mess out will wNt to work for this regime. I think we are in big trouble and it will only get worse.
    Pardew Out !
     
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  9. Stevie T

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    Hate to break it to you but we ARE in a relegation dogfight. Just look at our record in 2014, it's the worst record of any Nufc team in the Prem era, ever.
     
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  10. daztoc

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    I read a Pardew quote yesterday, along the lines of "I will keep going until I am told otherwise"......... this suggests to me that MA has given him a certain number of games to save his skin. Weather that is one game or 10, who knows!! Clearly he has lost the fans, but that won't concern MA, he will loose the dressing room if results continue and he is loosing his ability to blame everybody else but himself daily. Dead man walking for me.
     
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  11. goldie

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    Bring back shola lovenkrands and pancrates
     
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  12. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Haha! The way the players confidence is at the moment it will take more than one week after his sacking for it to even remotely start to come back. Enjoy your 3 points!
     
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  13. goldie

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    I feel people are failing to realise we actually have a **** team so changing our manager won't help a great deal.
     
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  14. Eddie's British Plodders

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    You have to take what you can.
     
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  15. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    I think the players are fine. He just turns them into bad players, offers no shape, tactics, motivation, etc.
     
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  16. Eddie's British Plodders

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    That's my hope. The constant standing off, low tempo, sluggish, disjointed rubbish likely has it's roots mainly in the coaching, tactics and management on offer. It could be argued that gelling time plays a part, but then we were just up against Southampton who could easily claim the same, and we all know what happened.
     
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  17. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace
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    Ashley's main dilemma today will be whether to have all five Yorkshire Puddings with his roast, or to make some space on his plate for those extra 7 spuds.
     
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  18. Seabass

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    I am generally in the camp of staying positive. I have tried fo give pardew time as I recognise that he is working under a very unusual regime. But...we are massively in the sh*t. He needs sacking now.
     
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  19. Eddie's British Plodders

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    No dilemma - he can always just eat off of a platter.
     
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  20. goldie

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    He won't sack Pardew he knows there is no point.
     
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