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ot..Ian Paisley Dies

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Commachio, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. SAFC_Derry

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    BIB, this is where we will differ in opinion Cest. Maybe in his own ego he might of thought that but in reality it was the people who forced the peace process on with a lot of help and work by the likes of John Hume and many others in the background. I've lived through the troubles and have read and heard many opinions on them. All I will say is that the majority of the people are decent and have no stomach for it anymore. Paisley was told that if he didn't go with the peace process and move forward N.ireland would be controlled from Westminster with a large influence from Dublin. With this in mind and seeing the writhing on the wall in regards to the swing in opinion against people who tried to remain in he past and refuse to move on he had no choice. We all new it wouldn't be easy and still know there will always be people who oppose it but it's a damn site better than what we had.
     
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  2. SAFC_Derry

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    No one said they didn't Billy? It's in the public domain and neither have denied what they were involved in, all you have to do is ask any Loyalist paramilitary who was involved and they will tell you a lot about Mr Paisleys words. In fact the late David Irvine who was a breathe of fresh air was often quite blunt about certain politicians, it's called a peace process and that means former enemies coming together and trying to move forward.
     
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  3. MrRAWhite

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    Billy didn't, but Comm did come across that way with his comments regarding Dorty Mags studies from research..
     
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  4. Blunham Mackem

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    No but I saw Dorty Mags leading Comm on just a little and Comm not wanting to get involved in a discussion on it. Look back, when did Comm ever give a one word answer, No? He didn't want to get involved.
     
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  5. Billy Death

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    Look, it's nice for me to go over there as a tourist & see the place without a uniform on & a rifle in my arms.
    IMO, it's still sitting on a knife edge but there's a fragile peace in place at the moment, even if there are dissidents on both sides.
    I for one hope it lasts for all the people of Ulster.
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

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    Me too mate...I do fear that the Scottish independence carry on could have repercussions over there though..
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    I imagine it will do if they vote yes mate.
     
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  8. Dorty Dogbreath

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    To be fair mate, I stopped asking questions when Comm said he had been involved. I do find the Troubles a fascinating (if somewhat macabre) subject and have respect for Comm and Billy for having been involved in it.
     
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  9. giggitygiggity_blackcat

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    The thing is though Ulster could never be independent and The republic never wanted it as part of a unified Ireland. I'm not even sure how hard Westminster would fight to keep it tbh.
     
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