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People who use their supporting history in their argument/opinion...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Steven Toast, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    It's ****ing well annoying.

    "I was there on Bunkers Hill watching Waggy blah blah blah". "I remember the great **** spell of '59" So ****ing what? It doesn't lend any credence to your argument. What, you think that because you're older you're suddenly a better fan? Because you apparently saw more of the ****ty times than we did? Well great stuff. That definitely makes you the better fan and consequently my opinion no longer matters. Oh, wait a minute. I wasn't born untill 1988. I didn't start going to City until 1993, so sorry if me not coming into existence until 1988 makes me out to be some sort of small time charlie. Us young-ish fans don't need to be looked down on, we're more than capable of researching history.

    I'll always respect older generations, but it doesn't half boil my piss when people start trying to use the 'old days' as some sort of way of saying "well, I was there in the **** times, I suffered and therefore my opinion lends more weight than yours does."

    It doesn't.
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I think you're missing the point when people bring these points up.
    If you chose not to go to watch City because you only want to support a successful team, then your opinion is less valid.
    If you werent born then this doesnt apply.
    I dont think anyone is saying cos you're younger your thoughts dont count.
     
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  3. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    I don't think people do it deliberately, but that is the overriding feeling I get from a lot of older fans (not just talking about this forum, but life in general). It's the sense of entitlement that they're right just because they've been going longer than I have and it bugs the hell out of me.
     
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  4. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    Your spot on but there is a tendency for certain posters to look down on the younger ones simply because they have supported longer or have seen worse days.
     
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  5. Murdoc

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    ... Usually tend to be Leeds or Nottingham Forest fans.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Well I can only speak for me but when I say 'I was there in the lowest ever crowd, were you?' it's not having a go at people being young so they dont know, it's having a go at people who chose not to go "cos City are ****" but now all of a sudden seem to be the fonts of all knowledge on the subject.
     
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  7. SuitedandBooted

    SuitedandBooted Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you cry about it?
     
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  8. TheCasual

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    If everyone who said was at the lowest attended game actually went they'd of been 10,000 there.

    My first game was 93, but only averaged four or five games a season. I didn't start going really regular until around the year 2000. My first season pass wasn't until 2002.
     
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  9. Crash Gate 9

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    Not been going long then?
     
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  10. Spanish Tiger

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    Well said Sterling totally agree.
     
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  11. Crash Gate 9

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    It's bullshit.
     
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  12. tigerpete

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    Just out of interest........ why is it bull?
     
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  13. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    nono you miss their point. they are the best fans because they have history on their side.
    If you are not humble in their presence... something is ****ing wrong with you!!
     
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  14. ElTigre

    ElTigre Well-Known Member

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    I know what you mean but on the other hand young people know it all.
     
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  15. Crash Gate 9

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    Because someone who has been going for decades...lives and breathes HCAFC...is better placed to comment than some teenager who has been going for one season.

    That works for me as a principal. It doesn't mean that their opinion is right but I don't see a 12 yr old teaching mathamatics to a Professor of mathamatics.
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

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    I've never met anyone who isnt a mate who claims that they were there.
     
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  17. FILEYseadog

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    Old twat here .

    I welcome all new fans to the club...When are dead and gone we need you newer fans to take our place ....the club would die with out you .

    Will our new owners please talk to the council and expand the stadium and work at getting more kids into the stadium even if for free

    Those kids could become season ticket holders of the future and take there kids to games

    Just don't sod off in bad times when your needed

    Those are the ' fans ' we don't like
     
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  18. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I have been going since 1958 and have never felt that any of the people I know of similar age including myself have ever thought just because we have been going longer were are more entitled and that our opinion is better that younger fans.

    What does annoy me are people that come on spouting whether a player is good, bad or indifferent when they haven't been to the game. Even watching on TV IMOH often gives a different perspective to what you see live.
     
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  19. oldman

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    I seem to remember the statement that the your (original) post refers to and it went along the lines of 'having supported city for many years I can't understand the logic of the [apparently] younger element who criticised Bruce for fielding a second string side - and that's a whole separate argument - against Lokeren. He should have gone tits out for Europe and stuff the premier league.' The implication there being that a place in the top division (not in a plastic way), with (arguably) our best manager and squad, playing the most attractive football is far more valuable having had to suffer many years of watching crap players playing badly against dross.

    You (Sterling) seem to think this equates to 'you youngsters don't know how lucky you are, you need to suffer to be a real supporter' etc. It doesn't. Totally different but I can understand this being confusing for some.
     
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  20. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    If you were there in the nineties is it possible to have seen worse days?

    I would say those who started in the dark days are the bestest most truest supporters in the whole wide world.

    (I started in 93 too by the way tommy)
     
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